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    Phoronix: KDevelop 5.1 Beta 1 Released With LLDB Debugger Support

    For those using KDevelop as the KDE-centric integrated development environment, version 5.1 Beta 1 is now available for testing...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...lop-5.1-Beta-1

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    For those using KDevelop as the KDE-centric integrated development environment, version 5.1 Beta 1 is now available for testing...
    While we all agree KDevelop is an open-source project developed under the KDE umbrella I'd like to stress that KDevelop is in no way KDE-centric or "only usable within an KDE" environment. I just want to make sure there's no wrong impression about which environments KDevelop can be used in. KDevelop has always been working fine under other Linux desktop environments other than KDE's Plasma, since the beginning.

    Last but not least: Since KDevelop 5 there's been some major efforts into trying to make KDevelop work on other platforms such as Windows and OS X, too, thus the term KDE-centric does not really apply anymore. We have users that use KDevelop on Windows just for working on Python code, for instance. Other people work on C/C++-only projects under Windows.

    Hope that helps,
    Kevin (on behalf of the KDevelop team)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by kfunk View Post

      While we all agree KDevelop is an open-source project developed under the KDE umbrella I'd like to stress that KDevelop is in no way KDE-centric or "only usable within an KDE" environment. I just want to make sure there's no wrong impression about which environments KDevelop can be used in. KDevelop has always been working fine under other Linux desktop environments other than KDE's Plasma, since the beginning.

      Last but not least: Since KDevelop 5 there's been some major efforts into trying to make KDevelop work on other platforms such as Windows and OS X, too, thus the term KDE-centric does not really apply anymore. We have users that use KDevelop on Windows just for working on Python code, for instance. Other people work on C/C++-only projects under Windows.

      Hope that helps,
      Kevin (on behalf of the KDevelop team)
      Is KDevelop's C++ support still CMake centric? Last time I played with it years ago QMake was basically unsupported, which makes it a pain for several projects I've worked on (and no they're not going to be converted to CMake, sorry they don't need the extra complexity CMake brings over QMake). If it's still unsupported, then I would recommend developing support to import QMake projects, and since you're going crossplatform you mights as well support Visual Studio Projects too

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      • #4
        Since the KDevelop 5.0 release we support QMake as another project manager. The support is simplistic but it covers the basic use case you encounter with QMake: Being able to reconfigure the build, use a different qmake binary, pass different arguments to QMake, etc. pp.. You can find a bit of information about QMake here: http://kfunk.org/2016/08/23/whats-new-in-kdevelop-5-0/ -- it's kept short unfortunately.

        KDevelop's C++ is not CMake centric either, it can be used on pure Makefiles-based projects as well. Or with projects not having a build system at all. There's just one thing the C/C++ language support plugin in KDevelop needs to know in order to be helpful when it comes to code browsing, code completion, etc.: the right compiler flags. KDevelop needs to know the set of include paths & defines a particular C++ header/source needs in order to be able to parse the file correctly -- but all that can be configured manually in the project settings in KDevelop as well!

        So in fact, you can have proper C++ support in KDevelop without even using one of the build systems mentioned.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by kfunk View Post

          While we all agree KDevelop is an open-source project developed under the KDE umbrella I'd like to stress that KDevelop is in no way KDE-centric or "only usable within an KDE" environment. I just want to make sure there's no wrong impression about which environments KDevelop can be used in. KDevelop has always been working fine under other Linux desktop environments other than KDE's Plasma, since the beginning.

          Last but not least: Since KDevelop 5 there's been some major efforts into trying to make KDevelop work on other platforms such as Windows and OS X, too, thus the term KDE-centric does not really apply anymore. We have users that use KDevelop on Windows just for working on Python code, for instance. Other people work on C/C++-only projects under Windows.

          Hope that helps,
          Kevin (on behalf of the KDevelop team)
          Maybe they chose the name poorly, then?... As it seems extremely misleading...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by kfunk View Post
            Since the KDevelop 5.0 release we support QMake as another project manager. The support is simplistic but it covers the basic use case you encounter with QMake: Being able to reconfigure the build, use a different qmake binary, pass different arguments to QMake, etc. pp.. You can find a bit of information about QMake here: http://kfunk.org/2016/08/23/whats-new-in-kdevelop-5-0/ -- it's kept short unfortunately.

            KDevelop's C++ is not CMake centric either, it can be used on pure Makefiles-based projects as well. Or with projects not having a build system at all. There's just one thing the C/C++ language support plugin in KDevelop needs to know in order to be helpful when it comes to code browsing, code completion, etc.: the right compiler flags. KDevelop needs to know the set of include paths & defines a particular C++ header/source needs in order to be able to parse the file correctly -- but all that can be configured manually in the project settings in KDevelop as well!

            So in fact, you can have proper C++ support in KDevelop without even using one of the build systems mentioned.
            Cool, thanks, clicking around on that it looks like the stability issues are also solved, So I guess I'll try it and see once 5.1 is properly released, and we'll see if I like it enough to switch, or I stick with QtCreator.

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            • #7
              I've certainly in enjoyed using the Qt 5 KDevelop (currently 5.0.3) - for a little C++ coding... It's got a nice and intuitive interface. IMHO it's got a much less "fuggly" interface than QtCreator - especially if you're not using any Qt libraries...

              But I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking it's a KDE-based application. It's even got the "About KDE" menu entry after alll...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Luke_Wolf View Post

                Cool, thanks, clicking around on that it looks like the stability issues are also solved, So I guess I'll try it and see once 5.1 is properly released, and we'll see if I like it enough to switch, or I stick with QtCreator.
                It is an KDE community app after all, its not kde centric neither not a part of kde.

                the major effort of the KDE team last year during randa was kde apps running on every platform, kde frameworks 5 were created just for that, separating kde libs and apps from the DE, some of them still projects of KDE community but not kde centric, some still just made for the DE (like plasma panel and launcher)

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                • #9
                  fucked with the quote, cant edit properly on mobile, kek
                  ‚Äč

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bobwya View Post
                    But I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking it's a KDE-based application. It's even got the "About KDE" menu entry after alll...
                    KDE in this context is a software vendor.

                    It produced, among other things, libraries for Qt application developers and Qt based applications.
                    One of which is an IDE called KDevelop.

                    So, IMHO, unsurpringly there is some mentioning of the producer of the software within the software's user interface.

                    Seems pretty standard actually: I am pretty sure of having seen "Adobe" being mentioned in some of their products, also vaguely remembering the name "Microsoft" appearing in some of theirs.

                    Cheers,
                    _

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