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  • #21
    Perhaps. But that wouldn't be enough, by far.

    1. They haven't changed project name for ages. Everyone knows that project name is essential. It has to be clever acronym, preferably recursive, if possible with esoteric or mythical component.

    2. Your project leader has to have "modern" worldviews and extreme, even, when within modern perspective.

    3. Aforementioned personal views have to be tied to a project and proclaimed at every possible opportunity - at every project installation, at every news notice, at every physical event etc.

    4. S/he has to tick as many of the minority groups as possible. Merely having a woman or black is pathetic, even in combination.

    You need to really step out of the crowd and find someone that:

    - is never really singular in biological sense. LIke those cojoined twins. Or even better, triplets, if you can find them. You need to find ones that share cranium, but _not_ brain.
    - s/he has to go thrugh sex change, at least once. And end up as one of those _other_ , non-classical 57 legally defined sexes ( look recent German law).
    -s/he has to be of some esoteric race and nationality combo, for example Albino Black Nigerian Swede. With undefined, gradiental eye colour/s, unique on each eye, on each head.
    -s/he has to use solely some equally esoteric, rare AND dead language.
    -s/he has to have sexual orientetions and views such that even if caught in the middle of Alleppo, ISIS would behead _itself_.
    Once was being anti-gay the norm, it was replaced by anti-anti-gay, but even that was obsolete some time ago, after being gradually escalated to extreme. So now you are looking for someone that practices bukkake merely for a daily protein diet and procreates through ritualistic "surgery" + gene "management" of some sort. Good starting point would be a sperm sampling + sex change to female + insemination with own archived sperm + 17yr wait time for bootstrap phase to mature + repeat the insemination on throwaway stage to get granchildren "directly".

    5. actual programming language choice is probably more like 50-th, not 5-th step, but even here you need something that is not merely a language. Just as mere VM are passe and bytecode thingies are for pussies. Fuck Rust and OO. You need _quantum_ object oriented not-language but paradigm. Why fuck around with inheritance if every object already is/ins't a Schredinger's cat? You need something that might be executed on quantum computers that are being speculated on being thought about in next 10 or 20 years. Ofcourse such language would mandate existence of infinite universes and hardware that would enable IPC and virtuality across universe barriers. And ofcourse JIT capability and not just HW, instant garbage collection but _garbage_universe_ collection.

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    • #22
      They should. And KDE should as well.

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      • #23
        Rust is not something you can pick up in 2 days. For some reason even the syntax is not C-like but some weird shit. Yes you can have more Rust code in Gnome or KDE or whatever but where are you going to get the programmers from ?
        Maybe if Red Hat or some company will train their programmers to learn Rust and then those will write Rust code in Gnome then yes. I for one as C++ programmer see no reason so use Rust right now because it's of no real use to me in my carer.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by mcirsta View Post
          Rust is not something you can pick up in 2 days. For some reason even the syntax is not C-like but some weird shit.
          You tell that functional programming languages (and the one who incorporate some syntax from them) are all shitty? You are not serious.
          Haskell is elegant language and functional programming is best for some problems.
          In multi-core world functional programming is more and more important, because it provides convenient way to correctly handle concurrency/parallelism.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by gQuigs View Post
            +100 to Rust. One of the downsides of GNOME is Vala - It's simply irrelevant outside of GNOME. Why should I master a language only used in GNOME.
            I disagree. It is also used, at least, in ElementaryOS. Also it is Gnome-agnostic, you don't need Gnome to run, compile or program with it.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by shmerl View Post
              They should. And KDE should as well.
              It is worth mentioning that Rust has really good QML support in the qml crate. Qml / js and Rust make a great application development platform, and it would work great with the Kirigami UI framework KDE have.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by spstarr View Post
                Sure, bindings, but not the core of GNOME, it's always been C.
                Then you can just start to port the whole Gtk to C++.

                GObject has some advantages over C++, like its dynamic nature and, thanks to gobject introspection, it's really easy to automatically create bindings for any language.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by spstarr View Post
                  GNOME continues to refuse OOP languages, it's like they've had a hate-on for C++ forever, let's pick yet-another-language thats not OOP...
                  Because of ABI compatibility, which is way worse on C++. A g++ upgrade usually breaks ABI compatibility.

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                  • #29
                    Is it possible to call a functions from a Rust library from C? Because that's pretty much my only issue with this.

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                    • #30
                      Yes. Rust everywhere!

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