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It seems that people here talking bullcrap about the language havent played with it since version 4. Please inform your selfs before... the language now even supports namespaces, closures, generators, etc... pretty up to date for me. Theres even a framework for async stuff like nodejs named reactphp. Also hhvm has evolved the language with scalar type hinting and class templates. At leasr scalar type hinting is going to make it into php 5.7. In any case I agree with othe poster that next release should just be 5.7 and 7.0 when they add jit to phpng which is the 5.7 branch
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by the303 View PostIt also abstracts a lot of HTML designing as my friend says.
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Originally posted by michal View PostThe list of PHP flaws is quite long. But from my POV most of these flaws are not meaningful.
For me the biggest PHP issue is speed. I like modern PHP frameworks.
On the other hand you have really good and fast language - C++ that lacks of really good web framework. There is nothing like C++ Symfony or Zend with good ORM.
So you have crappy language or crappy frameworksLast edited by the303; 22 July 2014, 03:35 AM.
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Originally posted by mark45 View PostAnyway, I read that PHP is a wacky and funny language with childish/rushed decisions because its author had issues, is it still true and will it be true for PHP 7?
PHP is *old* by the standards of web trends... for comparison, there was no such thing as CSS when the first version of PHP was released, and Javascript was a little-used novelty. Netscape 3 was considered a state-of-the-art browser, and Internet Explorer, that bane of web developers, had yet to be released.
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Originally posted by phoronix View PostPhoronix: PHP5's Successor Might Be PHP7
PHP developers are currently debating whether the next-generation version of the PHP programming language is to be known as PHP 6 or PHP 7...
http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTc0NjE
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by gufide View PostI heard that cppcms was not that bad, but I never tryed.
Maybe someday I'll learn WT and I'll buy commercial license for this framework. But there is no large market for web services in c++, so I don't have any pressure. I've only one project in my mind that could be a killer app because of c++ performance.
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Originally posted by michal View PostThe list of PHP flaws is quite long. But from my POV most of these flaws are not meaningful.
For me the biggest PHP issue is speed. I like modern PHP frameworks.
On the other hand you have really good and fast language - C++ that lacks of really good web framework. There is nothing like C++ Symfony or Zend with good ORM.
So you have crappy language or crappy frameworks
EDIT: I agree so much with you. PHP is one of the worst language but with the best tool for the web. We really need a symfony for C++ or something like that. I heard that cppcms was not that bad, but I never tryed.
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Originally posted by mark45 View PostYeah, if the book is about server-side programming and is older than like 3 years - throw it in the trash can.
Anyway, I read that PHP is a wacky and funny language with childish/rushed decisions because its author had issues, is it still true and will it be true for PHP 7?
Read PHP: a fractal of bad design and then realize that it's not a complete list.
(eg. The article doesn't mention that it's literally impossible to get raw decoded pixel data more efficiently than calling imagecolorat() once per pixel when using the PHP GD bindings because they wrap the C API so directly that they don't provide a replacement for "The handle is just a pointer. Dereference it if you need raw pixel data for something like equality comparison of two decoded lossless images.")Last edited by ssokolow; 21 July 2014, 05:43 PM.
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Guest repliedOriginally posted by mark45 View PostAnyway, I read that PHP is a wacky and funny language with childish/rushed decisions because its author had issues, is it still true and will it be true for PHP 7?
For me the biggest PHP issue is speed. I like modern PHP frameworks.
On the other hand you have really good and fast language - C++ that lacks of really good web framework. There is nothing like C++ Symfony or Zend with good ORM.
So you have crappy language or crappy frameworks
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