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Originally posted by DanLamb View PostI have explained a quite logical basis for preferring JDK over .NET/CLR. I don't think you're trying to hear that or be reasonable about it.
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Originally posted by RushPL View PostIt is deeply ironic how you all rush to install Oracle's binary blobs and yet bash open source Mono in different threads. Shame.
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Originally posted by Rich Oliver View PostFor now the JVM is the lesser evil. Scala is a far superior language to either Java or C#. It runs on the JVM. If we can continue to ramp up the adoption of Scala then we can get the resources and person power to build our own Virtual Machine /native compilation, targeted at Linux free of Oracle's control..
If you do not agree with my previous point then if it was Sun instead of Oracle perhaps I could agree with you on the lesser evil part but in my opinion Oracle is as evil as Microsoft is (some would argue that all corporations are evil but I would answer that some managements are more evil than others). So between Java and .NET it's two evil corporations and two major technology stacks which they control. A draw?
As for languages of choice, I heard lots of nice things about Scala but then I heard a lot of nice things about F#. F# as actually created initially on Mono and its creators postulate to not marginalize Mono. Let's talk about technology stacks because languages could obviously be implemented with different back-ends.
That said ... I personally think Mono could do much better by itself if it freed itself from Microsoft completely.
My final point is that Mono is a nice open piece of technology by itself and Java that everybody uses is a buggy insecure piece of blob. How to run Minecraft on any open source Java tech?
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Originally posted by RushPL View PostIt is deeply ironic how you all rush to install Oracle's binary blobs and yet bash open source Mono in different threads. Shame.
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Originally posted by Sonadow View PostYou get the HotSpot JVM with Oracle's version.
Not sure what VM OpenJDK uses. At least, in v6 and v7 it wasn't HotSpot.
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Originally posted by Delgarde View PostWe do the same... via a somewhat arcane packaging process, our dev machines at work have all the different versions of our techstack parallel-installed under /opt, so there's a directory with about eight different Java versions in it, ranging from 1.4 to 7. I'll have to see if I can clean out any of the old versions when we start looking at 8...
If you are to use multiple versions of a package, you can have a look at Lmod, this ease a lot the process of managing multiple versions of a package, properly.
Explanation here : https://www.tacc.utexas.edu/tacc-projects/lmod
Code here (GPL) : http://sourceforge.net/projects/lmod/
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It is deeply ironic how you all rush to install Oracle's binary blobs and yet bash open source Mono in different threads. Shame.
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Originally posted by Veerappan View PostMeh, I just use apt to install openjdk[78]. That way I get updates as they're tagged/built, and given that OpenJDK is the official reference platform for Oracle JDK (at least I'm pretty sure I read something to that effect), I figure I'm not missing much.
Not sure what VM OpenJDK uses. At least, in v6 and v7 it wasn't HotSpot.
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