Mozilla Announces Mozilla.ai For "Trustworthy AI"

[Mike Frett]

"Tools that make generative AI safer and more transparent."

AKA neuter and censor the hell out of it.

[Anux]

palemoon.org, now with Google's WebComponents!

Na thanks, in that case I can use chromium directly.

Funny thing that. The switch to WebExtensions was to stop extension breakage. Did you ever develop a legacy Firefox extension? I tried... and then looked into what others did.

At the time when the first big breakup in the plugin system happened, I was a full blown FF fan and defended their decision as beeing the right way and I remember that only a few plugin devs stopped supporting their plugins. Then there was a second breakup and many devs said that they are stopping plugin developement for FF (I lost some dearly loved plugins and stayed on an older version for some time).
Maybe there could have been a better way to do it, I don't know. But thats what happened and it hurt FF badly.

I remember using Greasemonkey for native video playback, it was a heck of a ride to get there, not for the average user.

what are you talking about, it runs faster, is generally more stable, individual tabs dont normally take down the entire browser anymore

No I meant it diddn't change the decline in user base.

Don't get me wrong I love the idea behind Firefox beeing a community driven browser that doesn't depend on an evil company. Problem is Mozilla has become an evil, corrupt corp and there is not much left from the old ideals. Maybe beeing dependend on Googles funding poisoned the well to beginn with. I'm still using it as my main browser though, constantly fixing the UI that they screw up with every update. Who makes those decisions, how is it user friendly to let users google every month to get useless buttons out of the way?

[stiiixy]

Can someone sell me a reason why I need or want an AI in my browser?

[Quackdoc]

Can someone sell me a reason why I need or want an AI in my browser?

because people are lazy fucks who don't want to do research by themselves anymore

[ssokolow]

It's an algorithm and database for cryin' out loud - it's not like it freakin' trips on acid.

If it's the glitch tokens you're talking about, there's actually an interesting backstory behind them... they're the digital equivalent of leaving space in your brain for a completely unique sensation but never letting you experience it until you're a full-grown adult... I'm not surprised the models freak out, given how overwhelming and terrifying blind-from-birth people have found it when science allowed them to see colours for the first time.

(Basically, usernames like SolidGoldMagikarp that made it into the initial build of the model's input layer, but then were identified as useless and scrubbed from the data set before actual training took place.)

[stiiixy]

because people are lazy fucks who don't want to do research by themselves anymore

Isn't that why we post on Photonix? 😁

[Paradigm Shifter]

because people are lazy fucks who don't want to do research by themselves anymore

Panem et circenses, bread and circuses.

A frighteningly large number of people don't want to think; they want to be told what to think, and want to be looked after by others for the privilege of not having to think for themselves. And then they want to be told that they are correct and proper for thinking what they are told to think.

I would say that books like Brave New World, 1984, Animal Farm etc. should be required reading in schools, but given I remember how much being forced to read and analyse Shakespeare made me loathe most of his work with a passion, it would have the opposite effect.

Because, of course, you cannot force someone to learn. Decades of modern "education theory" have demonstrated that amply.

[Quackdoc]

Isn't that why we post on Photonix? 😁

I wish I could say no xD

Panem et circenses, bread and circuses.

A frighteningly large number of people don't want to think; they want to be told what to think, and want to be looked after by others for the privilege of not having to think for themselves. And then they want to be told that they are correct and proper for thinking what they are told to think.

I would say that books like Brave New World, 1984, Animal Farm etc. should be required reading in schools, but given I remember how much being forced to read and analyse Shakespeare made me loathe most of his work with a passion, it would have the opposite effect.

Because, of course, you cannot force someone to learn. Decades of modern "education theory" have demonstrated that amply.

Indeed. I used to find political debating fun and interesting, because even if it's something I would disagree with fundamentally, it would at least be interesting to learn and think of another's perspective, now? I find bashing my head of a brick wall more entertaining since at least a brick wall was made by a real person's hands unlike the mass manufactured opinions now (this goes both ways, not trying to start anything, I hate all politics now). Actually, I think I'm kind of for the AI now, I think that at least an AI puts more "thought" into it's responses xD

[stiiixy]

I wish I could say no xD



Indeed. I used to find political debating fun and interesting, because even if it's something I would disagree with ...

...that at least an AI puts more "thought" into it's responses xD

My sentiments as well. Most people who claim to be having an intelligent discussion are pushing their agendas, usually based around their contrived echo-chamber.

I am becoming more a fan of a licence to vote these days. If you cant state your basic constitutions, et al, move aside and let the AI's vote!

[cj.wijtmans]

I wish people would stop trying to reinvent the internet and just focus on security. I am the point now where i don't even want to have JS let alone "webassembly" or other shite. I just want to look up information on a query and navigate an inventory. AJAX is never implemented properly anyway and could have been done without a scripting language. But then you realize exactly what these "features" are for... tracking you.
mozilla went down the drain as soon it started to use rust. Rust is a trojan horse. And i never trusted mozilla to take security seriously in the first place.