systemd's Growth Over 2022

[rogerx]

Wow! Now that's some growth!

Should see what I have growing on my CPU!

[Shiba]

Systemd continues to grow

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[cynic]

Well, that was the likely plan when beginning SystemD.

However, now it takes multitudes of people for managing one computer running SystemD.

The only one person that could manage one computer or multitudes of computers running SystemD, eh, went back to Microsoft.

you see, in order to be able to "manage a computer", especially a UNIX derived system, you should, at the very least, be able to distinguish between uppercase and lowercase letters.

if you aren't even able to spell systemd correctly probably you are the one that should go back to Microsoft.

[sinepgib]

I'd say deluded, low IQ non-contributors who just complain and do nothing to improve things are vastly worse. You are very much included in that category.

Yep. The only person I see actually doing something to try and replace systemd with something just as useful is Skarnet. For the tens of thousands of spectators, one only really does put his money where his mouth is. Others are either inconstant, unmaintained, not trying to live in a proper distro (those may as well not exist) or simply misdesigned, and often a combination of all of those. s6 suffers from being incomplete, but at least it's acknowledged by the author and there's active work to fix that, contrary to most others.

Off-topic: IQ is overrated anyway. I find most people obsessed over that little number have their score as their only achievement. People with actual achievements may or may not have a high IQ (and may even know what that number is for them!), but don't obsess about saying "I have a high IQ BTW" as if they're a beginner Arch user.

Well, that was the likely plan when beginning SystemD.

However, now it takes multitudes of people for managing one computer running SystemD.

The only one person that could manage one computer or multitudes of computers running SystemD, eh, went back to Microsoft.

Huh, I must be doing something too well then
But really, if you find filling the gaps in a few declarative files too hard, you must be doing a really lousy job with those init scripts.

[F.Ultra]

As someone else said "systemd is not just an init process". That I agree with.

Systemd is a dubious ideology interjected into a solution to the old init.d, which is indeed a crappy system.

Yes, solving problems - always good. But it matters a lot how you solve the problem as well. And it seems that the author of systemd has these delusions of grandeur that makes him believe that his way is the best way. There is no alternative so this ideology is simply force-fed down our throats.

This is perhaps one of the biggest problems with free software IMO - deluded visionaries.

Straw man post of the year contestant!

[vladpetric]

Straw man post of the year contestant!

You may want to study some logic before you throw around accusations of logical fallacies in such a cavalier manner.

No, what I said is absolutely not a straw man.

[andyprough]

Originally posted by caligula View Post
1,7MLOC. That's a helluva init process. How much memory does this PID 1 use already?

The src/ directory is about 500K lines and contains wayyyy more than just the init process. Got any more low IQ comments?

Variations of caligula's same comment have been used for the past 12 years on Phoronix to troll systemd fans into responding with indignation, which you did. It would appear that the higher IQ has caused the lower IQ to react in the expected manner.

[ll1025]

This entire thread is proof that good, old-school trolling never died.

Well done everyone and especially Michael.

[abott]

Super low IQ comment by someone who has never done any systems programming in his life. Pathetic. 🤣

Here's a comprehensive disassembly of Defender I have done. Which, in essence, is a primitive task-based computer OS.

And right when I finished, they released the coding for the original game here, if you'd like to check my work. But they have many less comments than me. They didn't even mark note of their hacks to make the game avoid the attract crashing because of stack overflow.

You can peep the "Arctic Code Vault Contributor" on my profile, for my Linux commit to fix my K70 keyboard, too.

All that said, sadly my sysadmin job isn't programming. It's just my "extreme" hobby.

The only one person that could manage one computer or multitudes of computers running SystemD, eh, went back to Microsoft.

I mean, if the functions work, and are documented, and the source is there...this really isn't true in any sense? Do you actually mean this? This has to be a joke. I can make systemd do basically anything I want, but I don't because I'm not the packager of anything that needs that. However, everyone else manages systemd just fine. Except whatever holds up the shutdown process back a few years, lol. I think Fedora just patched for a similar issue with.

On that note, if you think systemd sucks, check out PAM. That shit is awful. And it does one thing, which is suck. lol.

[darcagn]

systemd is the best thing to ever happen in the Linux ecosystem. sysv init was unreliable, barely functional garbage and the biggest weak point of Linux distros by far. All of the systemd alternatives that have popped up since are autismware and seriously lack critical features.

Ah, we've come full circle back to this gem of a perpetual non-argument.

I can see it now, in 2052 someone'll be on Phoronix complaining about the poor performance of systemd-mmorpg when run on GPUs not manufactured by systemd, and there your kind will be, ready to point out how awful things were with sysvinit, as if it's relevant to any of the complaints people actually have.