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Originally posted by Sergey Podobry View Post
You can count them on fingers. While there are so many companies using Java, Python or C++ that you couldn't fit them in a single post on this forum.
I'm kind of wondering if you even understand how infrastructure and maintenance work or if you're just trying to sound smart?
Rust is in Linux, you don't seem to be able to counter this given not even C++ managed to do that.
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Everyone is talking about rust being young, but it is already 12 years in the making ...
I had high hopes for rust when people started to write an OS in rust: https://gitlab.redox-os.org/
Every year or so I go and check the progress.
I have never been able to get that source code to compile properly. Always some incompatibility or version issue.
That shows to me that rust is not ready yet (after 12 years in the making).
Rust is too complex a language to make it "big time" like pascal, c, java, etc had.
The Linux kernel developers probably just got tired of being bombarded by all the rust propaganda and gave in.
I do find the rust "supporters" to be the most annoying of any community on the internet due to their relentless propaganda.
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Originally posted by Raka555 View PostEveryone is talking about rust being young, but it is already 12 years in the making ...
I had high hopes for rust when people started to write an OS in rust: https://gitlab.redox-os.org/
Every year or so I go and check the progress.
I have never been able to get that source code to compile properly. Always some incompatibility or version issue.
That shows to me that rust is not ready yet (after 12 years in the making).
Rust is too complex a language to make it "big time" like pascal, c, java, etc had.
The Linux kernel developers probably just got tired of being bombarded by all the rust propaganda and gave in.
I do find the rust "supporters" to be the most annoying of any community on the internet due to their relentless propaganda.
What's that about it's features?
Oh, no comment about it's features? It's all propaganda and satan's spawn and the fanboys are just brainwashed?
It's a programming language. A tool. An object.
You have psychosis.
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Originally posted by Ironmask View Post
And this is the funniest thing about Rust critics.
What's that about it's features?
Oh, no comment about it's features? It's all propaganda and satan's spawn and the fanboys are just brainwashed?
It's a programming language. A tool. An object.
You have psychosis.
Watch about 4 minutes of this talk. What she says applies even more to rust than the languages she mentions.
Last edited by Raka555; 21 July 2022, 06:55 AM.
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Originally posted by Raka555 View Post
And luckily we have other choices and get tired of having rust jammed down our thoughts ...
Watch about 4 minutes of this talk. What she says applies even more to rust than the languages she mentions.
I don't think she's talking about Rust. Actually, if you wanted someone actually smart to talk negatively about Rust, you should look at Johnathan Blow's streams about it. While I greatly respect the man, he's a perfect example of someone thinking they're so smart that they don't have to learn about it judge how useful it is.
Rust is not hard.
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Originally posted by Ironmask View Post
What are you saying? Rust is "academic" because it helpfully forces you to think about how the memory of the computer works? That you can't just mindlessly copy two raw pointers pointing to the same thing to two entirely unrelated parts of the program and then have your program experience a critical security bug because you forgot to account for that?
I don't think she's talking about Rust. Actually, if you wanted someone actually smart to talk negatively about Rust, you should look at Johnathan Blow's streams about it. While I greatly respect the man, he's a perfect example of someone thinking they're so smart that they don't have to learn about it judge how useful it is.
Rust is not hard.
BTW I probably watched every stream Johnathan Blow made about JAI.Last edited by Raka555; 21 July 2022, 07:12 AM.
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Originally posted by ssokolow View Post
No, you can enable constructs not subject to borrow checking (raw pointers). That's how Rust internals and FFI operate. There's no switch to disable borrow-checking.Code:unsafe { }
Originally posted by rabcor View PostC(arbon)
Proper programmers are a dying breed anyways
most of the coders these days shouldn't be trusted with something as versatile and easy to fuck-up as C++, what we really need is a really simple language like python but paired with an interpreter that allows it to run almost as fast as decently written C++ code would have.
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Originally posted by Ironmask View Post
Can you explain how?
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