Google Engineers Lift The Lid On Carbon - A Hopeful Successor To C++

[Sergey Podobry]

Yeah, with Scratch (!) & Cobol more popular than Rust, SQL as programming language... Tiobe is a yet another ranking based on hit counts of some random queries reported by Google & other search engines, a methodology that is generally known to be close to nonsense https://link.springer.com/chapter/10...642-29253-8_73

Rust has a lot of buzz in the internet. But in real life I visit a job board and see the following numbers:
c++ - 138
python - 182
java - 235
c# - 199
golang - 52
rust - 5

Who in sane mind wants to get 5 job proposals instead of hundreds? So almost none will invest time into learning Rust. The same goes from the company perspective: do you want your product to get locked with a not widespread technology and hard to find developers?

[xhustler]

You are all clueless.
Forget borrow checkers, static typing etc... the key point is this:

Welcoming open-source community

• Community that works to be welcoming, inclusive, and friendly
  
  \s

Doesn't mean we have to welcome all kinds of trash spewed out every couple of months.

[Ironmask]

Rust has a lot of buzz in the internet. But in real life I visit a job board and see the following numbers:
c++ - 138
python - 182
java - 235
c# - 199
golang - 52
rust - 5

Who in sane mind wants to get 5 job proposals instead of hundreds? So almost none will invest time into learning Rust. The same goes from the company perspective: do you want your product to get locked with a not widespread technology and hard to find developers?

It's in Linux.
Those numbers are going to shoot up dramatically in the coming years, just from that alone. Never mind Microsoft and Amazon's commitment to it. And it's in Chromium now too.
It's massively widespread. You don't realize that because you're looking at jobs about maintaining 20 year old software and going "where's all the rust?", you sound like a pointy-haired boss.

[DanL]

Does Carbon Rust?

No. Carbon oxidizes, but rust is oxidized iron.

[cl333r]

That's the worst of both worlds. The borrow checker is the feature to like in Rust. Everything else in it is... OK, I guess, but I wouldn't migrate for it. If you're gonna migrate for syntax sugar alone, then you may as well aim higher and hope for some Python-like language.

The borrow checker is its worst feature.

[Sergey Podobry]

It's in Linux.
Those numbers are going to shoot up dramatically in the coming years, just from that alone. Never mind Microsoft and Amazon's commitment to it. And it's in Chromium now too.
It's massively widespread. You don't realize that because you're looking at jobs about maintaining 20 year old software and going "where's all the rust?", you sound like a pointy-haired boss.

It's opposite to widespread and I showed you the proof. And numbers aren't going high in near future. It's like a chicken-egg problem: no jobs, no developers, no products.

[cl333r]

Mommy, I am writing unsafe code that i don't understand and compiler is mean to meee, I don't like that compiler, I want to pretend i know everything better.

Tell your mommy she raised an idiot because safety like security is one of the most bland terms that like shit can be thrown at anything and stick for a while.

[Ironmask]

The borrow checker is its worst feature.

I'm starting to think you're furiously enraged at Rust because you're refusing to sit down and learn how it works.

[Ironmask]

It's opposite to widespread and I showed you the proof. And numbers aren't going high in near future. It's like a chicken-egg problem: no jobs, no developers, no products.

Linux Foundation, Microsoft and Amazon. Linux, Firefox, Chromium. Discord's adopted in the backend to replace Go.

[Sergey Podobry]

Linux Foundation, Microsoft and Amazon. Linux, Firefox, Chromium. Discord's adopted in the backend to replace Go.

You can count them on fingers. While there are so many companies using Java, Python or C++ that you couldn't fit them in a single post on this forum.