Microsoft Releases Performance Tools For Linux/Android

[tildearrow]

It was stated in exactly what you quoted for this tool

Please note its possible todo a TUI a text based UI and it does not have that. Do note Windows there means MS Windows. So Linux and Mac OS users cannot have a GUI.

Yes .net core without using third party bits has no form of GUI other than run a web page.



Of course it gets better.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-au/dot...i/what-is-maui
The new maui interface for 2022 so that .net core has a UI interface does not include general Linux. Of course this is to replace the Xamarin.Forms that did have Linux support.

So much for loves Linux.

Not only that, but also Microsoft loves stealing names so much. This is the real Maui: https://mauikit.org/

[Scellow]

How is it a turn-off? It's just .NET Core, so no need for Mono, Wine or some weird trick.

The problematic apps are the other 99% which use .NET Framework, which is Windows-only.

because it is bloat

imagine downloading a giant runtime only just to run a cmd line application

imaging having electron as dependency to run htop

when the whole world is making effort to write tiny, efficient and portable code

you have a giant trillion dollar company that bloats people's machines with infested JIT crap

[CochainComplex]

Waiting for the EEEdriver mainlined in the kernel.

[partcyborg]

Too bad you can't view dmesg output on Android without root access these days, meaning this is useless for 90% of android developers out there

[oiaohm]

Are you kidding? No GUI on the Linux version?!.

It was stated in exactly what you quoted for this tool

The Microsoft tools can be run from the command-line or the Windows Performance Analyzer GUI.

Please note its possible todo a TUI a text based UI and it does not have that. Do note Windows there means MS Windows. So Linux and Mac OS users cannot have a GUI.

Yes .net core without using third party bits has no form of GUI other than run a web page.

More proof C# is tied to Windows for all eternity!!!
It's like .NET Framework is the entire resort, while .NET Core is just an empty pool.

Of course it gets better.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-au/dot...i/what-is-maui
The new maui interface for 2022 so that .net core has a UI interface does not include general Linux. Of course this is to replace the Xamarin.Forms that did have Linux support.

So much for loves Linux.

[tildearrow]

Its still another case of no GUI for you if you don't run Windows.

https://avaloniaui.net/

Its not that Microsoft with .NET on Linux if they wanted to could not have a GUI library.

Big reasons why .NET core is a turn off
1) in a lot of cases is the application you are using on Linux don't use .net at all. So adding .net is adding parts that are not normally there.
2) Mono is packaged by distributions but Microsoft .Net Core runtime is not.

The number 2 is a big one. No constant on going distribution integration testing so different breakages come up.

3) Microsoft does not answer questions when their third party repository for debian and other distributions is missing parts add on parts for.NET Core.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/ans...l-require.html
Yes say go to some third party site for answers. Yes X version of .net deciding not to build X part so when you run update things go wrong is nothing strange.

.NET core requirement does get Linux administrators worried for many good reasons.

.NET core does on Linux have its own problematic side. Yes .NET core applications are simpler to get working on Linux this is true but they can come your on going headacks that are caused by the miss alignment between distributions and Microsoft and Microsoft at times only building part of .NET core of a particular version for the distribution you are using and of course your .NET core application depending on the parts Microsoft did not build.

Are you kidding? No GUI on the Linux version?!

More proof C# is tied to Windows for all eternity!!!
It's like .NET Framework is the entire resort, while .NET Core is just an empty pool.

[oiaohm]

How is it a turn-off? It's just .NET Core, so no need for Mono, Wine or some weird trick.

The problematic apps are the other 99% which use .NET Framework, which is Windows-only.

Its still another case of no GUI for you if you don't run Windows.

https://avaloniaui.net/

Its not that Microsoft with .NET on Linux if they wanted to could not have a GUI library.

Big reasons why .NET core is a turn off
1) in a lot of cases is the application you are using on Linux don't use .net at all. So adding .net is adding parts that are not normally there.
2) Mono is packaged by distributions but Microsoft .Net Core runtime is not.

The number 2 is a big one. No constant on going distribution integration testing so different breakages come up.

3) Microsoft does not answer questions when their third party repository for debian and other distributions is missing parts add on parts for.NET Core.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/614063/why-isn39t-dotnet-for-debian-including-all-require.html

Yes say go to some third party site for answers. Yes X version of .net deciding not to build X part so when you run update things go wrong is nothing strange.

.NET core requirement does get Linux administrators worried for many good reasons.

.NET core does on Linux have its own problematic side. Yes .NET core applications are simpler to get working on Linux this is true but they can come your on going headacks that are caused by the miss alignment between distributions and Microsoft and Microsoft at times only building part of .NET core of a particular version for the distribution you are using and of course your .NET core application depending on the parts Microsoft did not build.

[onlyLinuxLuvUBack]

Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes

Prepare for the wooden hollow shiny new trojan horse.

[tildearrow]

While this project from Microsoft is open-source, a turn-off for some will be that it does depend upon the Microsoft .NET Core Runtime. The Microsoft tools can be run from the command-line or the Windows Performance Analyzer GUI.

How is it a turn-off? It's just .NET Core, so no need for Mono, Wine or some weird trick.

The problematic apps are the other 99% which use .NET Framework, which is Windows-only.

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Microsoft Releases Performance Tools For Linux/Android

Microsoft has introduced "Microsoft-Performance-Tools for Linux-Android" as a collection of open-source tools for analyzing system performance on Linux and Android...

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MS-Performance-Tools-Linux