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  • #11
    Originally posted by Quackdoc View Post
    Well so long as it is open source thats cool. but man, you add china's name onto anything and skepticism skyrockets lol.
    Due to a combination of many decades of poor education and genetic degradation in Western civilizations leading to smooth brains parroting grifters resulting in loss of independent thought.

    Ready for another red pill talk?

    Fact: Elon owns a huge factory(s) in China, hires CCP agents, pays CCP taxes/bribes...but he is an American hero and champion of freedom???

    Any fans of rocketing $AMC?
    Fact: Guess who owns AMC? Helping them build a lunar base*diamond hands*

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    • #12
      Originally posted by dkasak View Post

      Wow that's a lame site. A massive banner ad covers the video content, which I assume is just CCP propaganda attempting to deflect from the world's coverage of ethnic cleansing.
      https://youtu.be/beq9Dua4Ajk

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      • #13
        Originally posted by enihcam View Post
        (cut link as it does not answer anything)
        Except there is a big problem.
        https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-55634388

        This bbc writeup is in fact based on a patent and others have been based on other publicly released documents by china government.
        https://www.icij.org/investigations/china-cables/
        There is a pool of what you would call stolen/leaked internal china classified documents that back what the BBC is saying.

        Sorry bbc new about china is not fake news all cases the bbc is using source materials. Yes it would be valid to claim being bias with some of the items. Usa and other countries are having major troubles with facial recognition to the point of looking into passing laws forbid use.

        Lets be real here enihcam the evidence exists against China without any really good explain. There are a few problems bbc interpenetration of the source material(leaked documents and patents) may not be 100 percent correct I will accept that. Like the white police officer killing black person in the USA if that was used to say all the police was bad in the USA this would be based on a fact but interpreted incorrectly. Problem here are BBC reporters allowed in china to check out how correct they are their presumed answer is from the documents they have access to the answer is no they are not. The risk of misinterpretation goes up in the media when a media firm is forbid from validating their conclusion. Remember a misinterpretation does not make the news fake as there is still a true store there that the counter story should successfully answer. Like with the china cables we know that there have been china government officials writing this stuff these may be racist officials that have been punished or should be punished for all we know because we don't have all the documents.

        Really instead of cgtn saying that the BBC is fake news it would have been better if they had of researched the source documents the BBC used. Maybe they have the same problem BBC has where they are not allowed to-do the proper research to answer the documents. Maybe their are a few rogue personal inside China just like their are a few rogue USA police offices and the result is China getting bad name for few bad people but due to poor reporting on this people from china is resulting BBC error this is the best case. The worse case is that the BBC right.

        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-police-report
        Please note I am real here. Like the USA could have had equal conclusions drawn from from only a limited access to USA government internal documents but other documents have been released by the USA government explain the problem with people being dismissed for being rogue and not suitable for their position.

        China government might have the correct ideals but their officials are still humans and so some of them are likely be racist bits of works that don't deserve their position and if there is not effective controls against them China could have a non approve genocide problem. First step to fixing a racist problem inside a government operation is admitting you have the problem instead of just attempting to look good. You are running a country does not matter the government type you need to always suspect some of your officials will be taking bribes or racist or other-ways of performing discrimination so harming your countries operations. There is nothing wrong admitting to these problems its nature of humans issues do come when you attempt to save face and cover up these issues. Being truthful off the start line and dealing with these problem early is the way to save face long term with effective deterrent against them and the sooner you face these problem the less long term harm to reputation you get. This also would result that it would less likely a party like the BBC will think that the documents they get leaked are showing worse than what they really show in fact make more likely that the BBC will report stuff as not as bad as it really is. Yes how to save face with these problem is as a government be open about these problems and take them on so everyone knows they do this stuff wrong they will be punished as this results in reduced cases of this problem and when these problem happen to be taken as some rogue not doing what they are meant to.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by dkasak View Post

          Wow that's a lame site. A massive banner ad covers the video content, which I assume is just CCP propaganda attempting to deflect from the world's coverage of ethnic cleansing.
          Yeah, that's because, surprise surprise... CGTN is CCP propaganda: https://www.economist.com/china/2018...language-media

          And Wumaus (CCP shills) are regurgitating this propaganda on the internet.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by board View Post

            Yeah, that's because, surprise surprise... CGTN is CCP propaganda: https://www.economist.com/china/2018...language-media

            And Wumaus (CCP shills) are regurgitating this propaganda on the internet.

            CGTN is a state media for sure, but western media are also sponsored right?

            CGTN only concerns about the biases which the western media constantly have, and in future add 200 billion+ dollars for just anti-china.

            https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...nti-china-bill

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            • #16
              Originally posted by enihcam View Post
              CGTN is a state media for sure, but western media are also sponsored right?
              This is not really factor.

              Originally posted by enihcam View Post
              CGTN only concerns about the biases which the western media constantly have, and in future add 200 billion+ dollars for just anti-china.
              This line is so true. BBC for example I am not saying does not have biases. Something to always be aware of is when BBC says something that have documents backing their position. CGTN is so focused on the so called bias of places like BBC they don't write a correct response explaining the documents the BBC has.

              There is a difference between a group that is attempting to be a deception machine and a group attempting todo proper reporting. Please note being sponsored by a government or commercial really does not make difference here. Fox in the USA that a huge commercial media company is a deception machine.

              A party attempting to-do proper reporting will have reference for sources that back their point of view. Of course a party attempting to-do proper reporting in case of lack of information access are not always going to get it right and sometimes personal bias will read the information different to what it means. This is the nature of proper reporting news media. This is something BBC is.

              I do think it fair to call CGTN a propaganda/deception machine because
              1) they accuse parties like the BBC of having bias without in fact spending the time to write a proper response to the source documents the BBC used.
              2) I have never seen any of CGTN releases contain any reference to what they base their point of view on that the BBC is wrong. This forces me to think of CGTN as writing as directed in a complete bias and possible totally fabricated content. Yes this is trump fake news claim class of garbage.

              As I said I don't give a rats that CGTN is state sponsored. Lets take ABC in Australia its state sponsored it has a program called media watch I would recommend you watch it. The Media Watch program who total job is to find deceptive and incorrect fact in the Australia and point them out. They are very good are providing source documents to prove that stuff is lies. CGTN was a china group doing the same things a ABC Media Watch does on a global scale they would not be called a propaganda/deception machine. Of course this could also have the case of being at times internally embarrassing. Yes media watch does programs on themselves and other parts of the ABC when they make mistakes. This is the correct way to attempt to address bias not what CGTN is currently doing.

              From my point of view China is wasting ton cash on CGTN for very little results because they are using complete the wrong method. Get some serous reporters to examine the source documents of parties like BBC if need have the contacts to release documents to explain the leaked documents. Some of this could be making sure the public documents of X party being prosecuted for the miss behaviour that was in the documents to show that it was a limit case and if any more cases like this are found they will be prosecuted. This could create some interest different think if China was wanting to speak to refuges to find out what happened because they story they are telling should not have legally happened. Yes the right method will some of the time give China bad new that something was in fact wrong and has to be corrected but in cases where its pure bias reporting proper reporting will totally undermine the bias reporting.

              Yes I do remember the master martial artist in china who was proving many so called masters in china were fake who end up hugely punished by the China government because it being believed that it was damaging to China. So its not only the BBC that china is handling incorrectly they are handling some of their internal people incorrectly who are raising serous problems of miss information. Like it or not china has had the habit of cutting the whistle blowers head off instead of dealing with the problem and this method does not work on the global stage as well does not do china long term good internally. Sorry to say I have to fear that China could be like the catholic church with paedophiles as in very bad things wrong that are being hidden out of the stupid requirement to save face instead of facing the problem and dealing correctly with it.
              Last edited by oiaohm; 12 July 2021, 08:43 AM.

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              • #17
                unfortunately very few relevant comments

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Templar82 View Post
                  So the totalitarian communist regime is more fair than most Western countries, awkward.
                  More like, give us ALL your information and skills, we don't care who from

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by enihcam View Post
                    CGTN is a state media for sure, but western media are also sponsored right?
                    No, it's not. The USA has press freedom as the First Amendment of our Constitution and the government has no right to censor or insert anything into the news. The only exception is in the case of national security, however even that isn't an absolute exception. If they use national security as grounds for censoring something that's not, then media companies can challenge it in court.

                    Originally posted by enihcam View Post
                    CGTN only concerns about the biases which the western media constantly have,
                    Assuming there actually is bias, you don't defeat bias by countering with disinformation. You defeat it through accurate reporting and good journalism. That's the only way people will trust you.

                    This is nothing, compared to the way business is routinely conducted in & by China. If China would compete fairly, like most other countries, this sort of thing wouldn't be necessary.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by coder View Post
                      No, it's not. The USA has press freedom as the First Amendment of our Constitution and the government has no right to censor or insert anything into the news. The only exception is in the case of national security, however even that isn't an absolute exception. If they use national security as grounds for censoring something that's not, then media companies can challenge it in court.
                      You’re living in some kind of dream world if you believe this.

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