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Originally posted by Ironmask View PostThat's the best part, they know they're copypasta but they're getting angry at me anyway as if I'm genuinely writing them all out.
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Originally posted by coder View PostYeah, but that's only if you transfer the copyright and their license doesn't permit the other things you want to do with it (such as contributing it to a project with an incompatible license or using in closed source).
Originally posted by coder View PostIf you retain the copyright, then you can still use GPL, today. Later, if you ever change your mind or want to offer your software for inclusion in closed source software, there's nothing preventing you from offering it under different or additional licenses, at that time.
You know the context of the posting or do you think lines are next to each other for no reason?
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Originally posted by Danielsan View Post
does exist a public domain license? Would you please share a link if you know it?
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Originally posted by coder View PostUm, exactly what is wishful thinking?
Linux is a UNIX-like OS kernel, in terms of its device model, its privilege model, its directory structure, its filesystem model, and countless other details. This is no accident, because it was originally written as yet-another UNIX clone. Sure, it has definitely grown and evolved, but it roots are still clear enough to qualify it as a UNIX-like OS.
Anyway, this nit-picking over semantics is missing the point. Linux wouldn't have been shit without the stuff contributed by the FSF. And its kernel being GPL has had profound effects on its evolution.
My only point is that the troll post by Ironmask was as overly dismissive of the value of FSF's contributions as it is overstating Stallman's control and influence over Linux and GPL software.
Let's revisit your ode of praise to FSF
Dude, the FSF wrote gcc, ld, libc, among many other tools and libs.
Whatever you think about Stallman and Emacs, a UNIX OS ain't shit without userspace tools or a C compiler. That's what FSF contributed, besides their GPL for the kernel.
I'm no fan of Stallman, but this turd should've been left in 2015.
With the way Linux has been ignoring POSIX standards you cannot call Linux "Unix-like" any more. It's just Linux nowadays, going it's own way.. Getting shit built on Linux (or for Linux) ported over to actual "Unix-like" OS'es has become major effort or may be flat out impossible when your porting effort happens to meet purely Linux-specific implementations. "Unix-likeness" assumes compatibility.Last edited by aht0; 16 June 2021, 06:05 AM.
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Originally posted by aht0 View PostWith the way Linux has been ignoring POSIX standards you cannot call Linux "Unix-like" any more. It's just Linux nowadays, going it's own way.. Getting shit built on Linux (or for Linux) ported over to actual "Unix-like" OS'es has become major effort or may be flat out impossible when your porting effort happens to meet purely Linux-specific implementations. "Unix-likeness" assumes compatibility.
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Originally posted by BesiegedAce View PostYou, RMS, the Free Software Foundation, and GNU software have reached their current high profiles largely on the back of Linux.
GNU itself then has been riding on the back of UNIX long before Torvalds started picking Minix code apart to create his own UNIX-like kernel, to then run GNU software with it. And yes, this means Linux is riding on the back of UNIX.
Linux has made itself a slave of GNU, whether one likes it or not. One cannot wish it away, but one has to work in order to remove it. Only then will Linux be free from GNU.
To just imagine it away and dream it was not so is as dumb as the rest of the cancel culture.Last edited by sdack; 16 June 2021, 12:07 PM.
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Originally posted by discordian View PostYou know the context of the posting or do you think lines are next to each other for no reason?
My apologies to you ego. But, had your answer been clearer, I wouldn't have felt the need to reply.Last edited by coder; 16 June 2021, 09:58 PM.
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Originally posted by aht0 View PostI am not nitpicking, I am pointing out your factual error. You spoke about Unix itself, not about Unix-like. And you did spoke using words that strongly imply all Unices were using FSF software - which is as untruth as can be.
Originally posted by aht0 View PostLet's revisit your ode of praise to FSF
Not a single true certified Unix has ever been built upon FSF-sponsored software. And when it comes to "Unix-like" software - it's just GNU/Linux and Hurd built purely on those.
Originally posted by aht0 View PostWith the way Linux has been ignoring POSIX standards you cannot call Linux "Unix-like" any more. It's just Linux nowadays, going it's own way.. Getting shit built on Linux (or for Linux) ported over to actual "Unix-like" OS'es has become major effort or may be flat out impossible when your porting effort happens to meet purely Linux-specific implementations. "Unix-likeness" assumes compatibility.
While your corrections are welcome, it's not my goal to get into a big battle over semantics. However, if you feel there's an important distinction worth making, go ahead and make it. I'm sure I could learn a thing or two.
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Originally posted by sdack View PostLinux has made itself a slave of GNU, whether one likes it or not. One cannot wish it away, but one has to work in order to remove it. Only then will Linux be free from GNU.
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