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  • #11
    Originally posted by RahulSundaram View Post

    Doesn't apply here. They are neither late (since none of the projects are on a strict schedule) nor or they trying to add more manpower. It is just an umbrella project aiming for better cross collaboration between existing developers of the project.
    You have no understanding of Brooks Law.
    Brooks' Law is driven by the fact that the more lines of communication there are between people the lower the productivity.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by CaptainLugnuts View Post

      You have no understanding of Brooks Law.
      Brooks' Law is driven by the fact that the more lines of communication there are between people the lower the productivity.
      You are attempting to describe one aspect of it called "ramp up time" by Brooks but you are missing some preconditions in this understanding. This only applies when everyone is working on a shared component and need to stay in sync. It doesn't apply to an umbrella project because as described by Brooks, each individual component of an umbrella project acts as a "highly divisible task".

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      • #13
        Originally posted by RahulSundaram View Post

        You are attempting to describe one aspect of it called "ramp up time" by Brooks but you are missing some preconditions in this understanding. This only applies when everyone is working on a shared component and need to stay in sync. It doesn't apply to an umbrella project because as described by Brooks, each individual component of an umbrella project acts as a "highly divisible task".
        Voluntary communications doesn't require an umbrella project to happen.

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        • #14
          The reporting of this article seems to miss the point.
          Nothing is being hosted(?). It isn't the new platform.
          Rather it seems aimed at de-platforming RMS.
          In some brief research one person on it lies outright about RMS here https://wingolog.org/archives/2021/0...re-we-go-again a few weeks ago.

          Meanwhile RMS survived an attempt to de-platform him based on the same lie in a continued effort to do so starting when he was forced to step down from FSF two years ago or so. Now he is back at FSF.
          There was an attempt to appoint a new leader of GNU on the Guix mailing list even then, in October of 2019.

          Haven't read this, but it is about another person on the list
          https://gnu.support/richard-stallman...n-GNU-org.html

          I imagine not by accident, the GNU Assembly has a CoC, and RMS (who did have a hand in making the alternative code of kindness at FSF before the campaign against him started)

          Edit: CORRECTION, this part wasn't true: just confirmed GNU doesn't have a CoC precisely so that anyone can contribute, etc.
          I was thinking of https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/g.../msg00014.html

          This is the intermediary FSF head resigning https://www.fsf.org/blogs/executive-...bers-resigning

          Edit:

          The GNU Project welcomes contributions from all and everyone

          The GNU Project commits to providing a harassment-free experience for all contributors. It wants to give everyone the opportunity of contributing to its efforts on any of the many tasks that require work. It welcomes all contributors, regardless of their gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, level of experience, or any other personal characteristics.

          a harassment-free experience for
          and
          regardless of
          along with the immutable-characteristics everyone need be reminded of everywhere they go to contribute
          is (without credit given) straight out of the Covenant CoC, a document penned by someone that launched an organisation for non-libre software.

          Read how ESR sees CoCs in relation to project health https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/20...il/235575.html

          Yet there is
          The GNU Project adopts policies that encourage and enable developers to actively defend user freedom.
          https://linustechtips.com/topic/9740...ux-coc-is-bad/ are some of the fiascos of CoCs, but I couldn't find the one I was looking for.
          The GNU Project commits to providing a harassment-free experience for
          …
          or any other personal characteristics.
          Is RMS somehow not in GNU at all according to GNU Assembly? Who is leading "GNU Assembly", and how soon will there be calls for de-platforming like with so many others?

          Edit2: Lunduke in a video about the (potential) split in libre software https://lbry.tv/@Lunduke:e/LinuxWorldSplitInTwo:d
          Last edited by kingu; 17 April 2021, 07:04 PM.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by kingu View Post
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            What if this is a fake GNU after all trying to cause havoc?:

            1. no references to the GNU Assembly on the official GNU website (or even the FSF one)
            2. gnu.tools not registered by the FSF

            I am very concerned about this new thing...
            Last edited by tildearrow; 17 April 2021, 09:06 PM.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by zxy_thf View Post
              Voluntary communications doesn't require an umbrella project to happen.
              If they prefer an umbrella project and have set it up, they see a need for it. They have the right to do that.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by kingu View Post
                In some brief research one person on it lies outright about RMS here https://wingolog.org/archives/2021/0...re-we-go-again a few weeks ago.
                Wow, that's scary. I'm not sure the author of that post truly is so illiterate as to misinterpret RMS' words in such a manner, or just purely malevolent in their intent.
                Surely they can be prosecuted for libel; they could be brought to court as criminals in many countries where regulatory laws for digital life exist, and surely cannot be considered anything short of cyber bullies.
                Sad to see such persons in GNU, trying to subvert it from the inside.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by chocolate View Post
                  Wow, that's scary. I'm not sure the author of that post truly is so illiterate as to misinterpret RMS' words in such a manner, or just purely malevolent in their intent.
                  Surely they can be prosecuted for libel; they could be brought to court as criminals in many countries where regulatory laws for digital life exist, and surely cannot be considered anything short of cyber bullies.
                  Sad to see such persons in GNU, trying to subvert it from the inside.
                  Speaking true facts is a defense against libel charges.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post

                    Speaking true facts is a defense against libel charges.
                    Yup, therefore it would be pretty hard for the author of that post to defend themselves in court.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by chocolate View Post

                      Yup, therefore it would be pretty hard for the author of that post to defend themselves in court.
                      Which line exactly is a lie? There were only a few lines about RMS at all, and they all just related what had happened in the past.

                      Meanwhile Elon Musk blatantly called an innocent guy he didn't like a pedophile and still won a libel lawsuit.

                      I don't think you understand the legal system very well.

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