GitLab Will Now Default To "Main" For New Git Repositories

[torsionbar28]

I see your pathetic alt-right "debate"-tactics, wilfully misinterpreting what I said and twisting my words into something they are not. Your malign intentions are not to have a reasoned debate. I'm not going to play along with your game. There is no further debate to be had between the two of us, as you will clearly break rules as well as reason and logic in an effort to make a new enemy.

This is what socialism (fascism) looks like folks. You goose-step to their mantra, or the discussion is over. Logic and facts need not apply. World history definitely need not apply.

For those claiming that Hitler was a socialist,

He was *elected* as a socialist. The N A Z I acronym literally means Socialist Workers Party. For the people! For the workers! Just like every murderous oppressive dictator. The history is clear and consistent: Socialism on the ballot = oppression and death.

History has proven that large all-encompassing government that intrudes heavily on the daily lives of the people always always always equals oppression and death. Whether that large all-encompassing government is called "socialism" or "communism" or "fascism" is just splitting hairs, they are all one in the same. Resentment of the rich. Promises to provide for the masses. Elimination of the influence of religion. These three political promises always end in the same flavor of suffering, poverty, desperation, and death, regardless of whatever academic label you want to apply.

[DKJones]

Truth. Socialism, Communism, Fascism, they are all the same thing. The difference is purely academic. They all demand total allegiance punishing anyone who dissents, they all demand forfeiting increasing amounts of your rights and your money in the name of some common good. And they all involve pitting the people against some perceived enemy.

Every murderous oppressive dictator of the past 200 years rose to power on three Socialist pillars: 1) Resentment of the wealthy. 2) Promises to provide for the masses. 3) Elimination of the influence of religion. Sound familiar? It was true for Adolf in WWII, the Russian Communists in 1917, and the CCP in China. It's just as true for the modern-day American Democratic political party who is making the same three promises. Just like the WWII German book burnings and the CCP's "cultural revolution", the American Democratic party is destroying works of art that are not in-line with the party's views. Scary stuff. History is repeating.

Sorry to break it to you, but religion is declining in America just as it is in the West. The decline merely took longer to start.

And speaking as a religious person, the number one reason (tied with the assumption that religion is anti-science, at least) why religion is declining is because of the number of authoritarian hypocrites who demand that everyone speak and think like them. They whine about the replacement of "master" and "slave" and "blacklist" and "whitelist" and call it "wokeism," "cancel culture," "libtardism" and all the other names, because they can't think of a good argument why everyone should dance to their tune. Ever hear of Colin Kaepernick? He was cancelled because snowflakes couldn't stand the idea that someone might protest racial discrimination even by something as innocuous as kneeling during an anthem. And then when people started rioting because you couldn't stand them doing something as innocuous as kneeling during the anthem, you couldn't stand that either. But of course none of you call it being "cancelled," because you're doing it, so that's alright then, isn't it?

Even if I believed that the replacement of terms like "master" and "slave" was something to get riled up about (I can see how it's offensive to people who have a history of being enslaved because of their x, y z, but that's a different issue to the one I'm pointing out), instead of a matter for the owners of a flipping collection of bits you don't have to use and probably never have, you'd still have a choice: (a) find your own repo which uses the words "master" if it's so important to you; (b) found one; (c) don't bother coding. I'm pretty sure that the kind of people who think white supremacy is acceptable probably aren't clearheaded enough to write decent code anyway, so in the case of (c) nothing of value would be lost.

Now, leaving aside the fact that you may be the kind of person who's here to troll Linux from a technology standpoint - I haven't taken enough notice of who you are to know beforehand, and I really couldn't care less whether you are or not - Linus himself has written against the idea that greed is good, which sounds like a pretty socialist idea to me, so if you're a Linux fan, perhaps you should think of using another operating system.

As for the socialism angle, yes the Nazis had "socialist" in the name of their party, but they were actually very pro-business, as you would know if, for example, you'd seen Schindler's List, as Schindler began as a pro-Nazi, private businessman. So if you believe that having "socialist" in the name makes them leftwing, I hope you never discover Buffalo wings or you're in for a shock. It may interest you to know German registration plates, which usually include a two-letter code for the locality they're registered in, deliberately avoid using the combination SS for reasons which I hope are obvious, and I've seen the combination shelved in other contexts in Britain, too.

And speaking as a Jew, you can say what you like about Nazis as far as I'm concerned (except counterfactual stuff like "they were socialist,") but unlike today's white supremacists they actually had balls. Well, apart from Hitler, but even he had one.

[Kemosabe]

Well you know, you can't defend the word "master", because you have no stake in it, since you are (likely) not black and have no history of slavery oppression.

I am (likely) not black and therefore I don't own the word master, which has historically been used in the context of slavery.

Besides that, the group of people, let's call them "leaders" of the movement, they openly admit that this is about changing the use of words, because according to their believes, the word black is used in "bad context", that's why there is racism. To summarize, it's an attempt of brainwashing or "reprogramming" - if their logic is sane, but that's an different topic - of the population.

These people are predominantly white wokes. It's not about feelings. How would it be, git has nothing to do with slavery.

[Vistaus]

We're talking about "master" and "main" as words in the English language. Does anyone here know about a known practice of assigning English technical terms by first checking all other languages for other meanings?

I didn't say it was that important, esp. since English is much more spoken worldwide than Dutch. I was only trying to make a point that "alternative words" don't have to be better per se 'cause there's always a group that's going to be offended one way or another.

[ElectricPrism]

This is what socialism (fascism) looks like folks. You goose-step to their mantra, or the discussion is over. Logic and facts need not apply. World history definitely need not apply.


He was *elected* as a socialist. The N A Z I acronym literally means Socialist Workers Party. For the people! For the workers! Just like every murderous oppressive dictator. The history is clear and consistent: Socialism on the ballot = oppression and death.

History has proven that large all-encompassing government that intrudes heavily on the daily lives of the people always always always equals oppression and death. Whether that large all-encompassing government is called "socialism" or "communism" or "fascism" is just splitting hairs, they are all one in the same. Resentment of the rich. Promises to provide for the masses. Elimination of the influence of religion. These three political promises always end in the same flavor of suffering, poverty, desperation, and death, regardless of whatever academic label you want to apply.

Thank You.

People know Na ZI is National Socialist, but what they often forget is that politicians usually disguise their intentions behind the opposite flag, eg:

The Patriot Act (Joe Biden credits himself as the original writer in the 1990s)

The Internet Freedom Act (Wrong Name, it was the bill vs NetNeutrality that essentially did the opposite)

This is why I prefer uncensored speech -- people who are comfortable being mean and vulgar will tell you the truth. Sociopaths on the other hand hide behind morality, virtue signaling, and are constantly creating diversions to hide their private agendas.

[archibald]

The N A Z I acronym literally means Socialist Workers Party.

1) It's not an acronym.
2) It comes from "Nationalsozialistiche Deutsche Arbeiterpartei", meaning "National Socialist German Workers' Party" (the acronym for which is NSDAP).

[torsionbar28]

Sorry to break it to you, but religion is declining in America just as it is in the West. The decline merely took longer to start.

And look at the result. Not good. You can literally overlay the graphs of declining church attendance, with those for murders, violent crimes, rapes, and out-of-wedlock child births, drug addiction, etc. and see a distinct correlation. As the one declines, the others go up.

And speaking as a religious person, the number one reason (tied with the assumption that religion is anti-science, at least) why religion is declining is because of the number of authoritarian hypocrites who demand that everyone speak and think like them. They whine about the replacement of "master" and "slave" and "blacklist" and "whitelist" and call it "wokeism," "cancel culture," "libtardism" and all the other names, because they can't think of a good argument why everyone should dance to their tune.

You are not a religious person, or if you are, you belong to some bizzare politically motivated cult. I can assure you that none of the area churches I've attended have *ever* refuted scientific findings, have ever demanded that anyone speak or think like them, or have ever used the words "wokeism" or "libtardism". You are painting a very telling picture here, based on false stereotypes and outright lies. Where do you get this stuff from? I'm genuinely curious who told you that nonsense. I invite you to come attend my church with me. Seriously. You might be shocked to discover that churches in real life are nothing like how you've been led to think.

Ever hear of Colin Kaepernick? He was cancelled because snowflakes couldn't stand the idea that someone might protest racial discrimination even by something as innocuous as kneeling during an anthem. And then when people started rioting because you couldn't stand them doing something as innocuous as kneeling during the anthem, you couldn't stand that either. But of course none of you call it being "cancelled," because you're doing it, so that's alright then, isn't it?

False. Colin was removed for knowingly offending the NFL's customer base. It's common knowledge that the flag and anthem are not to be used as props in cheap partisan theater. Colin knows that. There's a time and place to push a cause, and that simply isn't it. Clearly you have never served in the military. Sorry to disappoint, there is no deep conspiracy here. Why is it that difficult to understand why offending the majority of your audience is a bad business practice for a for-profit entertainment business? Would you use a wedding ceremony, a funeral, or a candle light vigil as your opportunity to hi-jack the event to push a pet cause? Of course not, that's in very poor taste and offensive to nearly everyone. There are certain events in a civil society where it's expected for you to act with reverence, and you know it. This is no different.

[drakonas777]

I have a pragmatic solution to this. Let's poll say 10k or more random PoC developers all around the world if they find term "master" in the code to be offensive. If 50+ % do, let's change it. That's all. I'm tired of these effing relentless rants.

BTW, although I do think that these term replacements won't fix any real world problems, IMHO 9 times out of the 10 "main" is in fact shorter and cleaner than "master", especially where is no "classical" inter-modular master-slave relationship.

[ElectricPrism]

I have a pragmatic solution to this. Let's poll say 10k or more random PoC developers all around the world if they find term "master" in the code to be offensive. If 50+ % do, let's change it. That's all. I'm tired of these effing relentless rants.

BTW, although I do think that these term replacements won't fix any real world problems, IMHO 9 times out of the 10 "main" is in fact shorter and cleaner than "master", especially where is no "classical" inter-modular master-slave relationship.

That's a good idea to do polling to make decisions.

I would like to summit food for thought I read a while ago -- how many man-hours in broken scripts, and software bugs is this going to create? Many no doubt.

No I don't think the juice is worth the squeeze, but at what point do you fight back against this non-sense?

This is simply: Idealism vs Practicality

I'll say it again: The Perfect is the Enemy of The Good -- Voltaire

[DKJones]

These people are predominantly white wokes. It's not about feelings. How would it be, git has nothing to do with slavery.

There was a guy called Martin Niemoeller who (as well as being, like Schindler as I mentioned elsewhere, a former Nazi supporter) is famous for writing a poem about the oppression of the Jews in Nazi Germany, and more specifically about the cowardice of the non-Jewish German population in not opposing them. You don't have to be Black to object to racism, and indeed if it weren't for abolitionist whites in Britain, slavery would not have been abolished when it was here. Nor indeed would women have the vote if men hadn't legalised it, gays be able to marry if heterosexuals hadn't voted to allow them to do so, and so on, ad infinitum.

As for the "Nazis are socialist" crowd, it may interest them to know that the above poem begins, "First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out, because I was not a socialist."