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  • #41
    Originally posted by Brisse View Post

    Sorry, I'm European, so when I wrote "liberal" I didn't mean as in the democratic party in America, but in it's more general meaning. On the other hand, the republican party has been hijacked by authoritarians, and when you only have one party left that believes in liberal democracy then you don't really have a functioning democracy. I hope the situation in the US can change for the better because it's pretty damn bleak.

    Sorry for getting into politics. I'll shut up now.
    Yes, you are 100% correct. The US system is not democratic. That's why the Republicans try so damn hard to draw the districts in their favor, and make voting harder for those who would not vote for them. Because as soon as nobody votes for them anymore (which is just a matter of time), it will turn into a one-party system. It's a desperate act to keep a broken system on life support.

    Unrelated to that. The ethnic cleansing of words won't help their cause.

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    • #42
      While I don't see `master` as a necessarily racist term, I do prefer the term `main` just because it actually is the main branch in the repo. Why use a metaphoric term when you have a literal term to use?

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      • #43
        Originally posted by torsionbar28 View Post
        Truth. Socialism, Communism, Fascism, they are all the same thing. The difference is purely academic. They all demand total allegiance, they all demand forfeiting increasing amounts of your rights and your money in the name of some common good. And they all involve pitting the people against some perceived enemy.

        Every murderous oppressive dictator of the past 200 years rose to power by promising three things: 1) Resentment of the wealthy. 2) Promises to provide for the masses. 3) Elimination of the influence of religion. Sound familiar? It was true for Adolf in WWII, the Russian Communists in 1917, and it's just as true for the modern-day American political party who is making the same three promises. Scary stuff. Dark times ahead so long as the Democrats are in charge.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence

        Adolf != Socialist

        But he said he was, because it helped make him more popular. Adolf was a populist, right wing extremist, fascist and a Nazi. He came to power by democratic (and a lot of lies and hate) means only to tear democracy down from within, just like a lot of his present day equivalents are trying to do. He also dismissed facts and news as "fake news" sometimes, but in it's German form which is "l├╝genpresse". Remind you of any recent politicians?

        And if you think religion should be promoted, look no further than Iran to see what that can do.
        Last edited by Brisse; 11 March 2021, 02:45 PM.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Brisse View Post
          Adolf != Socialist

          But he said he was, because it helped make him more popular. Adolf was a populist, right wing extremist, fascist and a Nazi. Just like his present day equivalents is trying to do, he came to power by democratic (and a lot of lies and hate) means only to tear democracy down from within.
          Indeed. "National Socialist Workers Party". Sounds nice on paper, doesn't it? Lets all vote for that, yay! The fact remains, Socialism = Fascism in every practical application of the past 200 years.

          "But he said he was". Just like An tifa claims to be "anti" fascist. And the DNC claims to be "democratic". And BLM claims and the... etc. Notice a pattern?

          Originally posted by Brisse View Post
          And if you think religion should be promoted, look no further than Iran to see what that can do.
          Yes, because "they're all the same". This thinking is no different from that which is used against the Jews, against slaves, against any "other" population you wish to oppress. Careful, your socialism (i.e. fascism) is showing.
          Last edited by torsionbar28; 11 March 2021, 02:52 PM.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Brisse View Post
            The amount of toxic white snowflakes on this message board is flabbergasting.
            Not really. Not once you've been around the block here a bit (which isn't to say Phoronix is the only cesspit of white supremacist butthurt on the internet, because it isn't by a long chalk).

            They whine about snowflakes and then whine about how the world is changing to accommodate other people's feelings as well as their own. It's quite pathetic really. Utterly, utterly so.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by meklu View Post
              It is not clearer than "master" in the slightest. It is plain and simply a completely useless change without a single upside.
              Careful, that kind of wrong-headed thinking will get the Diversity Fascists after you. They'll dox you, ridicule you, and destroy you. In the name of tolerance and diversity, of course.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by torsionbar28 View Post
                Indeed. "National Socialist Workers Party". Sounds nice on paper, doesn't it? Lets all vote for that, yay! The fact remains, Socialism = Fascism in every practical application of the past 200 years.

                "But he said he was". Just like An tifa claims to be "anti" fascist. And the DNC claims to be "democratic". And BLM claims and the... etc. Notice a pattern?


                Yes, because "they're all the same". This thinking is no different from that which is used against the Jews, against slaves, against any "other" population you wish to oppress. Careful, your socialism (i.e. fascism) is showing.
                I see your pathetic alt-right "debate"-tactics, wilfully misinterpreting what I said and twisting my words into something they are not. Your malign intentions are not to have a reasoned debate. I'm not going to play along with your game. There is no further debate to be had between the two of us, as you will clearly break rules as well as reason and logic in an effort to make a new enemy.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Kemosabe View Post

                  I actually brought that up in a discussion once. You can imagine how people like that are quite the opposite of inclusive and call you words when you doubt their holy cause.

                  Long story short, the question was not answered and it does not seem to follow any kind of logic.
                  Well you know, you can't defend the word "master", because you have no stake in it, since you are (likely) not black and have no history of slavery oppression.

                  Speaking of which: what do descendants of slaves of other ethnicity say about this? Why is "slavery" even associated to racism? There were (and probably are) slaves of all ethnic backgrounds and also of the same ethnic backgrounds as their "masters".

                  Ah whatever. As you said: it's not about logic. It's about picking a fight and feeling better than others (which, in itself, is also a shitty behavior and doesn't improve the world). But hey, at least we don't actually have to deal with the problem (racism, etc.) but can talk about irrelvant side topics.

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                  • #49
                    For those claiming that Hitler was a socialist, I suggest watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUFvG4RpwJI

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                    • #50
                      What I see since my earlier comment:

                      Kiting
                      Diversions
                      Personal Attacks
                      Binary/Sith Thinking (Sorry -- Group A and B may be prominent but Group C through Z are a thing too though less in-your-face due to lacking the fanaticals)


                      (Edit: The point of the anakin meme is to point out binary thinking -- putting people into Group A or B is lazy, limiting & stupid -- I reserve the right to be prejudice against the uneducated and willfully stupid)

                      As some of you will recall from history the massive Socialist problem in Germany pre-World-War-II (The Unnecessary War) was what led to the rise of the Fascist -- Adolf Hitler.

                      So what I'm saying is buckle your seat-belts, the snowflakes have no idea how much this is going to backfire.

                      Maybe once China has finished parasiting the US they will make some additions to their Uigher Camps, Jail Camps, and Organ Harvesting Camps.

                      Edit: What people often forget is that the Massacre at Tiananmen Square 1989 was the Chinese Communist Party massacring the local College Kids (The Marxists) because they realized that China wasn't truly Communist -- and you know how they did it? They brought in rural people in the north who hated the City Folk because they had no trouble committing acts of violence against those they were jealous of.

                      My history teacher always said: Those who are ignorant to history are doomed to repeat it, and here we are for a third go-around.
                      Last edited by ElectricPrism; 11 March 2021, 03:21 PM.

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