Intel To Release OSPray Studio Scene Graph Application Soon As Part Of oneAPI

[chuckula]

Is it implied that the ray tracing in these app can be accelerated by the ray tracing hardware in the Xe-HPG? It isn't clear to me if there would be differences in real-time ray tracing support, which I presume is supported by Xe-HPG, and the rendering done non-real-time in these apps.

They won't give out too many details yet but I wouldn't be suprised if the the ray tracing hardware in future GPUs can help at least a little with rendering. However, there are some important differences between ray tracing technologies like RTX that are meant for "realtime" raytracing in games vs. far more complex and accurate ray tracing that you see in professional rendering. For example, at least in the first iteration RTX relies on only a single ray cast plus some neural network machine learning to estimate what a more complex ray traced scene will look like. You have to have some simplification like that to keep live graphics moving along. However, in a higher-quality rendering environment you obviously want more than just one ray bounce.

[piotrj3]

They won't give out too many details yet but I wouldn't be suprised if the the ray tracing hardware in future GPUs can help at least a little with rendering. However, there are some important differences between ray tracing technologies like RTX that are meant for "realtime" raytracing in games vs. far more complex and accurate ray tracing that you see in professional rendering. For example, at least in the first iteration RTX relies on only a single ray cast plus some neural network machine learning to estimate what a more complex ray traced scene will look like. You have to have some simplification like that to keep live graphics moving along. However, in a higher-quality rendering environment you obviously want more than just one ray bounce.

That would be obvious that card to be comming in some time, should have planned support for DX12 ultimate/vulkan raytracing. If it wouldn't it would be outdated at start.

Question is how performant solutions of Intel and AMD will be.

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Whoever is in charge of this software program, with oneAPI and the such, is playing the long game, or at least the medium game. Hope Intel doesn't get cold feet right before it flourishes.

[zyxxel]

Translation: You work for a competitor of Intel and you are shitposting libel against Intel related to an article about how Intel is making massive contributions to the open source community in ray tracing and rendering.

OK.

Grow a pair of balls and publicly post where you work... oh and post a link to your manager's email address so that I can contact him and have a chat about how you are representing your employer in a public forum.


Otherwise, SFTU, delete your account and keep your fact-free irrational bigotry to yourself.

But the claims are true. After AMD got their 64-bit instruction set and M$ said no to allow Intel to have a second 64-bit x86 instruction set, Intel had to adopt the AMD instruction set. But did give it a different name and presented it as their own work at a very large press conference.

And Intel did forbid Dell to ship AMD Opteron machines on threat of not delivering Intel chips.

And Intel did an agreement with Rambus to only make chipsets supporting Rambus memories - and a workaround with a translation layer for normal RAM. A translation layer that slowed performance. Intel then sued a certain competitor for making motherboard chipsets with normal RAM interfaces - until they noticed that the majority of sold motherboards used that competitors chipsets since Intels chipset (with a translation layer) was shyt. Suddenly, over a night, all legal issues were solved - no motherboards that we wanted to buy would have meant no Intel processors sold either.

And Intel did ridicule AMD over the use of multiple silicon for a single processor. Intel never said anything about that oops, when Intel realized they had to use the same technology themselves - then it was an inventive solution that they had introduced...

Intel did step in and present a super-overclocked processor with a motherboard powered by a custom motherboard just to handle a kW of power - just to move the focus from AMD that at the same time released actually sellable server chips.

The list of fkd Intel marketing ploys and lies can be made much, much, much longer. Few companies have such a sordid history of cheating. So it's hard to not feel contempt for Intel the company and for Intel management bastrds.

[chuckula]

But the claims are true. After AMD got their 64-bit instruction set and M$ said no to allow Intel to have a second 64-bit x86 instruction set, Intel had to adopt the AMD instruction set. But did give it a different name and presented it as their own work at a very large press conference.

Another copy-n-pasted shitpost of non-relevant information. Guess what little girl: Intel plays hardball. It has to considering its competitors are people like IBM who has done things that make anything Intel has ever done look like the 1920's chicago mafia compared to a jaywalker. Oh and ARM who is owned by Softbank which is one of the most unethical companies in the entire industry by a huge margin. But let's not let "poor innocent little AMD" off the hook either when Jerry Sanders, the founder of the company, intentionally lied on the stand in Federal Court that Microsoft was not a monopoly. Totally unsuspiciously a week later there was a public announcement of Microsoft throwing lots of support behind AMD products. No... no collusion there whatsoever. Let's not even get into modern AMD who's monopoly lock on the console market has resulted in a horrible decline in gaming quality.

So by your "standards" every time there's an article about POWER we should hurl insults about the IBM monopoly and every time there's some article about AMD we should be hurling accusations at them for propping up the Microsoft monopoly. Because in your stupid little religion that should be completely acceptable.

[pal666]

Is it implied that the ray tracing in these app can be accelerated by the ray tracing hardware in the Xe-HPG?

acceleration by non-intel hardware is more interesting question, considering intel's track record

[pal666]

Intel plays hardball

and it was found guilty in court of bribing clients to not deal with amd and had to pay billion. of your money, imbecile, but it was tiny piece of money it extorted from you, so it didn't teach intel anything. and apparently it didn't teach you

[zyxxel]

Another copy-n-pasted shitpost of non-relevant information. Guess what little girl: Intel plays hardball. It has to considering its competitors are people like IBM who has done things that make anything Intel has ever done look like the 1920's chicago mafia compared to a jaywalker. Oh and ARM who is owned by Softbank which is one of the most unethical companies in the entire industry by a huge margin. But let's not let "poor innocent little AMD" off the hook either when Jerry Sanders, the founder of the company, intentionally lied on the stand in Federal Court that Microsoft was not a monopoly. Totally unsuspiciously a week later there was a public announcement of Microsoft throwing lots of support behind AMD products. No... no collusion there whatsoever. Let's not even get into modern AMD who's monopoly lock on the console market has resulted in a horrible decline in gaming quality.

So by your "standards" every time there's an article about POWER we should hurl insults about the IBM monopoly and every time there's some article about AMD we should be hurling accusations at them for propping up the Microsoft monopoly. Because in your stupid little religion that should be completely acceptable.

You have a flawed view of reasoning. If Luis Garavito is a the serial killer with most victims, that doesn't mean that Ted Bundy was a murderer with a large number of victims.

Nothing copy-n-paste, when I was actually affected by several of the issues I listed in my post.

I could not buy a Dell with Opteron processor because Dell didn't sell them. And it was proven that Dell didn't do it because Intel demanded that they didn't.

I couldn't buy a motherboard with Intel chipset unless I wanted to use Rambus memory or wanted slow performace from a translation chip. So I had to buy motherboards with VIA chipset.

I have lived with Intel issues in real life, while you seem to be a keyboard warrior debating virtual issues.

Saying Microsoft is - or isn't a monopoly is a not a lie per se - it's related to shades of gray. There are alternatives to Office. There are alternatives to Windows. But for people who wants the binary compatibility of Office, Windows etc, there has been a very severe lock-in.

And there is no law stopping other companies from competing on the console market. There is no law that a company may not have a huge market share. There is laws about a company with a huge market share buying competitors, or blocking competitors from existing.