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Last edited by board; 26 May 2020, 04:22 PM.
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Originally posted by board View Post
The LTS updates from 5.15 onward will not be free. But I do agree with your first point. We will likely see 5.15 packaged alongside version 6 in the future, just like how we have 4 and 5 now. But it'll be up to the community to back-port fixes this time.
Starting with Qt 5.15, long term support (LTS) will only be available to commercial customers. This means open-source users will receive patch-level releases of 5.15 until the next minor release will become available. This means that we will handle Qt 5.15 in the same way as e.g. 5.13 or 5.14 for open source users.
Lo and behold, 5.15 is actually available: https://www.qt.io/offline-installers
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Originally posted by bug77 View Post
From your link:
That means 5.15 will be available as usual, but it won't receive public patches once the next version (probably 6.0 in this case) is released.
Lo and behold, 5.15 is actually available: https://www.qt.io/offline-installers
But thank you for pointing it out regardless.
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Originally posted by bug77 View PostThat means 5.15 will be available as usual, but it won't receive public patches once the next version (probably 6.0 in this case) is released.
As right now there are no plans for another 5.x release, I would expect 5.15 to stay the last minor release of the 5 series with indefinite patches ;-)
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Originally posted by ypnos View Post
Actually I would not be so sure about that. They explicitely write, "This means open-source users will receive patch-level releases of 5.15 until the next minor release will become available," and 6.0 ist not a minor release. It also does not qualify as a direct replacement of a minor release because it is breaking compatibility.
As right now there are no plans for another 5.x release, I would expect 5.15 to stay the last minor release of the 5 series with indefinite patches ;-)
Tbh, users of rolling releases jump on the latest Qt release every time. They did not benefit from LTS support anyway. This will hurt conservative distros, but the silver lining could be they are now pushed towards shipping more recent Qt versions; users win by getting more up to date packages, Qt Company wins by getting more feedback on their changes.
Not a win-win, losing support is always a bummer. But if Qt Company needed to cash in on something, this may be the most harmless way of doing that.
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Originally posted by bug77 View PostIt could be, I'm not big on legalese
Tbh, users of rolling releases jump on the latest Qt release every time. They did not benefit from LTS support anyway.
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Originally posted by bug77 View Post
It could be, I'm not big on legalese
Tbh, users of rolling releases jump on the latest Qt release every time. They did not benefit from LTS support anyway. This will hurt conservative distros, but the silver lining could be they are now pushed towards shipping more recent Qt versions; users win by getting more up to date packages, Qt Company wins by getting more feedback on their changes.
Not a win-win, losing support is always a bummer. But if Qt Company needed to cash in on something, this may be the most harmless way of doing that.
Usually if you want more people use your paid tiers you add something that's worth buying, you don't take away stuff from the free tier...
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No pre-built offline installers sure, although I wouldn't say that I am going to miss those. Especially not since they moved everything into one installer, I really only use the GCC version, so it is kinda pointless to download a binary that contains a multitude of versions just to get one.
On the upside, you can still get pre-built with the online installer, and qt installations are supposed to be portable now, although I haven't tested it yet, so technically you should be able to use the online installer to download whatever you want, and then simply store that as a portable installation and copy it to other systems, so you don't even need to go through the installation step, as long as the installation is portable, that's actually better than the slow and bloated offline installer.
Lastly, building qt yourself is fairly trivial and there are a lot of good reasons to do your custom configured build.
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Originally posted by 144Hz View PostCongratulations to the Qt Marketing Dept. Boiling a frog is a difficult scam that requires expert weasel tactics. “Who needs seat belts or LTS anyway?”
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Originally posted by JackLilhammers View Post
I think that their approach is flawed. I agree that they need to cash in, but that's an ugly way to do it.
Usually if you want more people use your paid tiers you add something that's worth buying, you don't take away stuff from the free tier...
What can I say, ideally Qt Company would be swimming in $$$ and wouldn't do this at all. Since that's seemingly not the case, there's little we can do, but wait and see how it plays out. Qt's past has always been rocky, yet Qt is still with us. Have a little faith
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