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It's 2020 And GCC Has Finally Converted From SVN To Git

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  • #11
    Originally posted by anarki2 View Post
    ... but making the self-hosted instance the primary mirror is just foolish in this day and age.
    I think as a first initial step (having full control) it *might* have made some (a little, maybe) sense (although anyone with infrastructure clue would have warned them against it precisely because the first thing everyone (and their brother) would do is clone this huge repo, resulting in lots of server side work as it compresses this repo again, and again, and again. After all the entire family has finished the initial clones, keeping things synced will likely take far less server side resources). But they really should strongly reconsider self-hosting unless they expect to move the service to their herd OS based server soon (in which case they may need to continue self hosting).

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    • #12
      Originally posted by anarki2 View Post

      What exactly is "improper" about GitHub? It's exactly these self-hosted amateurish services that cause all kinds of troubles.

      Which provider is bound to have more experience with running the services? The one that runs a couple dozen repos, or the one serving a couple million repos? I mean it's completely out of question, it's pointless to even argue about.

      Not to mention various synergies resulting from a GitHub host, like people don't have to sign up a separate account just for GCC, they're already familiar with the interface etc. And I'm saying this as someone who runs GitLab for the company. GitLab is great for small to midsize teams, but if you want something serious, it's a whole lot of $$$. I also don't much like the interface. I mean it's decent, just not as good.
      What's improper about GitHub is that it's practically a data miner for a specific large corporation with anti-trust and EEE aspirations and with a long varied history of accomplishing such....

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      • #13
        Originally posted by CommunityMember View Post
        Once things settle, it will be time for the next discussion.
        Great; I'm working on my draft proposal right now that the project transition to Mercurial.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by duby229 View Post

          What's improper about GitHub is that it's practically a data miner for a specific large corporation with anti-trust and EEE aspirations and with a long varied history of accomplishing such....
          You do realize it's not 1995 anymore, right? This is like someone saying they don't trust OpenSUSE because of what Kaiser Wilhelm may be up to. Gates is off battling malaria and Ballmer's doing the developers dance with his basketball team.

          What data is Microsoft mining from your open source, public source code, anyway?

          To quote Linus Torvalds,
          "The whole anti-Microsoft thing was sometimes funny as a joke, but not really. Today, they're actually much friendlier. I talk to Microsoft engineers at various conferences, and I feel like, yes, they have changed, and the engineers are happy," Torvalds told ZDNet.

          "And they're like really happy working on Linux. So I completely dismissed all the anti-Microsoft stuff."
          Time to let it go. You're living in an era in which every copy of Windows includes a copy of the Linux kernel and Microsoft is releasing software for Linux. Don't be like one of those Japanese soldiers who fought WWII until 1972.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by duby229 View Post

            What's improper about GitHub is that it's practically a data miner for a specific large corporation with anti-trust and EEE aspirations and with a long varied history of accomplishing such....
            What is this effing bigotry? What can you mine off an open source project whose entire workflow is public?

            Besides, GIT repos can be moved between hosters at the speed of light.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by duby229 View Post
              What's improper about GitHub is that it's practically a data miner for a specific large corporation with anti-trust and EEE aspirations and with a long varied history of accomplishing such....
              I presume you have a custom patch set for your self-built Linux kernel to remove each and every patch (and then adjust the remaining code that depends on those patches) from all the companies that you have any objection to?

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              • #17
                Originally posted by alcalde View Post
                Great; I'm working on my draft proposal right now that the project transition to Mercurial.
                I am sure your proposal will be given all the consideration it deserves. Have you discussed with ESR how long it will take him to complete work to test and validate that conversion for a repository such as gcc (more than two years)?

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by CommunityMember View Post

                  I am sure your proposal will be given all the consideration it deserves. Have you discussed with ESR how long it will take him to complete work to test and validate that conversion for a repository such as gcc (more than two years)?
                  Honestly we didn't get into a discussion of time since I wasn't able to get past his demand for one of the forthcoming $3,990 USD 64-core Threadripper CPUs.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by alcalde View Post

                    You do realize it's not 1995 anymore, right? This is like someone saying they don't trust OpenSUSE because of what Kaiser Wilhelm may be up to. Gates is off battling malaria and Ballmer's doing the developers dance with his basketball team.

                    What data is Microsoft mining from your open source, public source code, anyway?

                    To quote Linus Torvalds,


                    Time to let it go. You're living in an era in which every copy of Windows includes a copy of the Linux kernel and Microsoft is releasing software for Linux. Don't be like one of those Japanese soldiers who fought WWII until 1972.
                    I guess we'll all find out when/if MS ever releases an open source OS....

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by birdie View Post

                      What is this effing bigotry? What can you mine off an open source project whose entire workflow is public?

                      Besides, GIT repos can be moved between hosters at the speed of light.
                      Panty's in a wad much? Butt hurt from hell...

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