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  • PHP 7.4 Performance Benchmarks Show A Nice Improvement - But PHP 8.0-dev Is Running Even Faster

    Phoronix: PHP 7.4 Performance Benchmarks Show A Nice Improvement - But PHP 8.0-dev Is Running Even Faster

    PHP 7.4 is due to be released next week as the annual major iteration to PHP7. Like we have seen through the PHP7 releases, while new features continue to be tacked on for this popular web-based programming language the performance has continued evolving. Here are the latest benchmarks of PHP 5.6 through PHP 7.4 while also looking at the PHP 8.0-dev performance that is in development on Git master.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=28516

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    They should rewrite it in Rust, and then run in microservice containers through kubernetes with nodejs as a backend and webassembly frontend,using actor model. There, I said it.

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    • #3
      Leave PHP alone, its great as it is. It wasn't always great but it has become quite amazing over the years. No wonder over 30% of the web runs on it.

      Nodejs is a security risk on its own, with lots of garbage code, no thanks. WASM is only interesting to those who want to hide malicious code, again no thanks. We already run PHP in microservice containers, written in PHP itself hah!

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      • #4
        Need a benchmark comparison Node.js vs PHP vs Golang vs Java vs Python vs Ruby vs IDK turbo pascal? Just for the lols

        Also:
        Originally posted by bash2bash View Post
        ... No wonder over 30% of the web runs on it.
        Yo are not wrong at all, but damn if your numbers are conservative; currently PHP powers over 70% of the Web easily, according to Wappalyzer, BuiltWith and W3Techs 2019 stats.

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        • #5
          My mistake, you are indeed right. I had something else in mind, wordpress has 30% usage of the entire internet, at least thats what wordpress itself says

          These days, I like python as well, I use it for various GTK+3 projects as a GUI language.


          Originally posted by ireri View Post
          Yo are not wrong at all, but damn if your numbers are conservative; currently PHP powers over 70% of the Web easily, according to Wappalyzer, BuiltWith and W3Techs 2019 stats.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bash2bash View Post
            Leave PHP alone, its great as it is.
            lol

            Originally posted by bash2bash View Post
            It wasn't always great but it has become quite amazing over the years.
            lol

            Originally posted by bash2bash View Post
            No wonder over 30% of the web runs on it.
            No wonder over 95% of users run on Windows!

            Originally posted by bash2bash View Post
            Nodejs is a security risk on its own,
            What?

            Originally posted by bash2bash View Post
            with lots of garbage code
            Indeed.

            Originally posted by bash2bash View Post
            WASM is only interesting to those who want to hide malicious code, again no thanks.
            ... How is wasm related to node?

            Originally posted by bash2bash View Post
            We already run PHP in microservice containers, written in PHP itself hah!
            ok

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            • #7
              too many lol's make you a lol guy

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              • #8
                I haven't coded in PHP for years. I used to like coding in PHP, but then moved on to C# on ASP.NET. After that I used to thing PHP a poor, inconsistent, terrible hacked-together language only relevant by the insane popularity of WordPress.
                There might have been some truth in that, but since then, PHP has seen huge improvements and advancements, and I think it deserves to be reevaluated.

                Huge performance improvements, the Composer package manager, the PHP-FIG with the PSR standards, the optional typing, traits, etc. It's all very nice things that makes PHP much more attractive than it was.

                If there is anything bad to say about PHP it is:
                • For historical reasons the global namespace is polluted with too many functions.
                • For historical reasons many functions are inconsistently named (some with underscore, some without).
                • For historical reasons there are functions return weird error codes such as -1 instead of throwing exceptions.
                • There are no async/await keywords, neither are there any support for promises.
                • There is no application server.
                • The object orientation is limited, and does not include data types (strings, integers, etc).


                Originally posted by bash2bash View Post
                These days, I like python as well, I use it for various GTK+3 projects as a GUI language.
                I also use Python for GTK 3 projects. It is rather nice because Python is much more easier to use than C, and it just works out-of-the-box on Ubuntu without fetching any development environment, tooling or development libraries.
                Now you write GTK applications in JavaScript too, but I haven't tried that. The GNOME Maps application is written in JavaScript. So then you could use TypeScript too and transcompile that into JavaScript, maybe that would be nice.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by uid313 View Post

                  If there is anything bad to say about PHP it is:
                  • For historical reasons the global namespace is polluted with too many functions.
                  • For historical reasons many functions are inconsistently named (some with underscore, some without).
                  • For historical reasons there are functions return weird error codes such as -1 instead of throwing exceptions.
                  • There are no async/await keywords, neither are there any support for promises.
                  • There is no application server.
                  • The object orientation is limited, and does not include data types (strings, integers, etc).
                  There is PHP-FPM now, and PHP it self can self host, to a limited degree. The thing is which PHP, its not a persistent application, so doing a async/await isnt really needed. And with no real threading model, it would be pretty hard to implement. And there are extensions that can kind of do that.
                  As for data types, the types system is getting pretty advanced, https://wiki.php.net/rfc

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MrEcho View Post

                    There is PHP-FPM now, and PHP it self can self host, to a limited degree. The thing is which PHP, its not a persistent application, so doing a async/await isnt really needed. And with no real threading model, it would be pretty hard to implement. And there are extensions that can kind of do that.
                    As for data types, the types system is getting pretty advanced, https://wiki.php.net/rfc
                    But I might want to do things like; accept a request, send a mail, post a webhook, and notify a service bus, and return a response, but I wouldn't want the client have to wait for things like sending mail, webhook or notifying a service before before it can receive a response.
                    Or I might want WebSockets.

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