Initial Patches Wire In C++20 Coroutines For The GCC Compiler

[pal666]

How is C++ these days, and C++20?
Is all the criticism warranted?

what criticism?

Have the language improved

language improves with every release

and fixed what people have been complaining about?

i have no idea what unnamed people complained about

Or is it still terribly confusing to the point that professionals don't have any idea what they are doing?

it was never like that

Does it still have a place,

world is running on c++. including rust compiler

or is Rust just a better alternative?

rust isn't an alternative to c++, so it can't be better alternative. maybe rust is an alternative to java or c#

[pal666]

The performance also improved massively since the early days, so I'd say it was a great decision.

massive improvement from early java days is very low bar

[pal666]

It's confusing and needs something like this to manage the historic baggage.

lol, not to manage historic baggage, but to (quoting next comment after your) "you don't end up with half of your std library deprecated (java, C#),
or with the complete clusterf* thats Python2/3."
and your link is a proposal, it is not part of language (yet)

[pal666]

Python 3 is so much better.

every new c++ release is so much better, and at the same time it does not split language into two incompatible branches where every library has to have two variants now
btw, my current project involves tensorflow. so i'm aware that python isn't worth much without c++(see, no rust here)

[computerquip]

rust isn't an alternative to c++, so it can't be better alternative. maybe rust is an alternative to java or c#

This in particular got me. Why do you think Rust isn't an alternative to C++ of all things?

[pal666]

This in particular got me. Why do you think Rust isn't an alternative to C++ of all things?

why do you think it is c++ alternative when its main feature is safety (read java or c#) ?
because someone told you it is c++ alternative? well, go authors thought go is c++ alternative, in reality it attracts only python devs

[computerquip]

why do you think it is c++ alternative when its main feature is safety (read java or c#) ?
because someone told you it is c++ alternative? well, go authors thought go is c++ alternative, in reality it attracts only python devs

I think it's a C++ alternative because it can do anything that C++ can do (with a different syntax of course) as of today. It's the most literal definition of an alternative you can get.

[pal666]

I think it's a C++ alternative because it can do anything that C++ can do

no, it can't. "it is turing complete too" doesn't cut it. btw you are implying that it can only do anything that c++ can do, but not anything that java or c# can do. so i'm curious, what is it lacking

[pal666]

It's confusing and needs something like this to manage the historic baggage.

sorry for second reply. i actually managed to read it and want to thank you for sharing it.
and laugh because that proposal states it is inspired by similar rust feature.
which means rust was confusing even before c++

[computerquip]

no, it can't. "it is turing complete too" doesn't cut it. btw you are implying that it can only do anything that c++ can do, but not anything that java or c# can do. so i'm curious, what is it lacking

You can't just say "no it can't" and not provide any examples or reasons why "it can't". What can C++ do that Rust cannot?