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  • #61
    Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
    Highly Unlikely. As most long-lived software it will have parts that were licensed from third parties and they can't opensource, stuff they can't defend reliably against patent infringing lawsuits, and maybe even stuff they plain stole.
    Hmmm, wait a second, maybe that's why they were hiring open-source devs for Windows Core OS.
    The kernel is already becoming pretty "in-house", modular, and scalable, due to the OneCore project.

    Maybe the wanna make the kernel small and barebones, dump everything problematic into the Win32 subsystem, that is only for desktop, and provide WCOS as a sort of open-source NT version of the AOSP.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Nemerian View Post

      Hmmm, wait a second, maybe that's why they were hiring open-source devs for Windows Core OS.
      The kernel is already becoming pretty "in-house", modular, and scalable, due to the OneCore project.

      Maybe the wanna make the kernel small and barebones, dump everything problematic into the Win32 subsystem, that is only for desktop, and provide WCOS as a sort of open-source NT version of the AOSP.
      What's the point of having a open kernel if most of the leg work is done by a blob?
      Also I'm pretty sure Win32 isn't only for desktop.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by tildearrow View Post

        Why not Krita + Darktable? GIMP feels outdated at times.
        I just don't see any thing in Krita that says I need to switch. I understand Gimp after years of use. There was a long gap that Gimp went with out upgrades but it seems to be receiving love again and I like the changes they are making.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
          What's the point of having a open kernel if most of the leg work is done by a blob?
          So devs can tinker with it, and apply it for stuff that isn't desktop(Hololens, IoT, etc.).

          Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
          Also I'm pretty sure Win32 isn't only for desktop.
          For the most part it is.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Nemerian View Post
            So devs can tinker with it, and apply it for stuff that isn't desktop(Hololens, IoT, etc.).
            people developing embedded are more interested about APIs they can use with their own applications, as that's their area of interest. Kernel development is tangetial.

            For the most part it is.
            Servers

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            • #66
              Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
              people developing embedded are more interested about APIs they can use with their own applications, as that's their area of interest. Kernel development is tangetial.
              Yeah, but that's what the rest of WCOS is for.

              Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
              Servers
              Yeah, but that's still x86.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Nemerian View Post
                Yeah, but that's what the rest of WCOS is for.
                Does not answer the question. What's the benefit of an opensource kernel for developers that are not going to touch the kernel anyway?
                Yeah, but that's still x86.
                Still not desktop though.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
                  Does not answer the question. What's the benefit of an opensource kernel for developers that are not going to touch the kernel anyway?
                  Most people don't mod the kernel when developing for Linux, either.
                  But it's place within an open-source OS, and outside of it, is crucial.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Nemerian View Post
                    Most people don't mod the kernel when developing for Linux, either.
                    But it's place within an open-source OS, and outside of it, is crucial.
                    Sure, but it does not explain why they would need to make it opensource.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
                      Sure, but it does not explain why they would need to make it opensource.
                      Because it'd make them more competitive, lower costs, and attract more devs.

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