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    Phoronix: Oracle Punts Java EE To The Eclipse Foundation

    Since last month's announcement by Oracle that they were essentially looking to offload Java EE to a new foundation, that new steward has now been named...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...pse-Foundation

  • #2
    Wow, it's not the Apache foundation.

    Java might not die a slow and painful death, then.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
      Wow, it's not the Apache foundation.

      Java might not die a slow and painful death, then.
      Why is Eclipse Foundation so relevant then? It's somewhat quite similar to Apache Foundation too.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
        Java might not die a slow and painful death, then.
        Java has been dying a slow painful death for the past twenty years.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
          Wow, it's not the Apache foundation.

          Java might not die a slow and painful death, then.
          Yup, it will be a fast and painful death instead rofl

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          • #6
            Originally posted by timofonic View Post

            Why is Eclipse Foundation so relevant then? It's somewhat quite similar to Apache Foundation too.
            To be honest, because they have a very vested interest in Java's survival.
            It Java were to be killed off, so too would the Eclipse Foundation... it is the backbone for almost all of the things that they develop.

            My only concern at this point is the JSR/JCR stuff, since OpenJDK refers to them continuously. If Eclipse is taken that over they effectively have stewardship of the language and compared to Oracle, that would be a GREAT thing.
            Last edited by Duve; 09-13-2017, 05:29 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Duve View Post
              To be honest, because they have a very vested interest in Java's survival.
              It Java were to be killed off, so too would the Eclipse Foundation... it is the backbone for almost all of the things that they develop.

              My only concern at this point is the JSR/JCR stuff, since OpenJDK refers to them continuously. If Eclipse is taken that over they effectively have stewardship of the language and compared to Oracle, that would be a GREAT thing.
              Don't confuse "Java" the language with "Java EE" the platform, though. This article is all about the latter - the "official" APIs for enterprise development. There's no suggestion that Oracle will be handing over control of the Java language any time soon, but handing over responsibility for the enterprise specs is a good move to revitalise a somewhat slow-to-adapt platform.

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              • #8
                After all their efforts to lock Java down and make it proprietary
                ( https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/0...s_oracle_java/ )
                have Oracle seem to have finally realised it's not going to be possible?
                linux addict, got the scars, the grey beard and the t-shirt.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Delgarde View Post

                  Don't confuse "Java" the language with "Java EE" the platform, though. This article is all about the latter - the "official" APIs for enterprise development. There's no suggestion that Oracle will be handing over control of the Java language any time soon, but handing over responsibility for the enterprise specs is a good move to revitalise a somewhat slow-to-adapt platform.
                  Given that allot of development around OpenJDK has yet to see Java EE, I am not so sure that Oracle could afford to keep it's ownership of the language (through with a company this ruthless, it doesn't matter all that much.) without other players having a say in that matter. Apparently, IBM and Redhat suggested this move so I am going to assume that they want a bigger piece of control over the language since they rely on it a ton.

                  As it stands, I doubt that they will stay silence on that for long.

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