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Don't forget, Oracle invests for example in BTRFS and other system stuff in Linux too.
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Originally posted by kebabbert View PostHow is it FUD? So what new hot cool tech has Linux got, that everyone wants? You tell me. I have never hear about anything new hot tech Linux devs create. They just copy. Actually, the whole Linux is a copy, a bad reimplementation of Unix. But on the other hand, many wants to (and already have, including Linux) copy Solaris tech. So is it a fact, or is it FUD?
If you say that high end Enterprise Unix such as Solaris has a bad reputation as buggy and bloated, then I want to see some links. Show us some links. Go ahead. You know, Solaris code is out there. And if someone found it to be ugly, then we sure would have heard it.
Yes, if someone says things about me that is not true, I must correct them. Dont you do that? If I claim you "said Linux sucks", then you surely want to correct me. So how is my reaction different from yours?
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Oh, zfs copied some feature from XFS:
ZFS has captured significant interest (in part due to Sun’s massive over-hyping of it). It combines low level disk block managers with volume management with file systems. It claims it is the first to do this, though if you look at the documents (man pages) for xfs, you realize that xfs had hooks for this (without the layering violations) long long ago on IRIX. That said, I don’t remember using this “feature” under Irix at all.
And some truth about it:
It's an obsolete.
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I don't care how many amateur devs Linux have.
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Originally posted by kebabbert View PostA source on what? Could you be more specific? I don't know how many times I have told you "what is clear to you, is not clear to me". But I just don't reach you on this. I have explained that many times. But you just don't understand. It is tiresome.
I don't care how many amateur devs Linux have. Nothing new is invented in Linux. Linux devs just copy: ZFS, DTrace, etc. And the copies are bad. Ok if the copies where better, but no, all copies suck bad. Not to mention how bloated and buggy Linux is - as Linux kernel devs say. Including Linus T. Solaris dont have that bad reputation that Linux has.
It shows Linux code quality is awesome. Much better then NetBSD. Sadly, there's no Solaris and FreeBSD out there. Maybe Solaris guys are afraid or something? Slowlaris has a very bad reputation - slow, bloated, support very limited number of hardware etc. Even some sun paid morons claim it's slower on x86, 64bit architectures.
Oh yes? Do you have a source on this?
I have done the informal MENSA test on their web site. I mailed to MENSA and asked about my result, and they told me I am on the verge of getting accepted to MENSA. (I had 13 out of 18, and some MENSA members had 12 out of 18 on the informal test). Hence, my IQ is / or close to 131. This is far above IQ of 75. MENSA said they have many mathematicians and physicists as members.
I was actually referring to other people, those who don't understand what one write. You know, when I write something many times, and he just doesn't understand. Then he seem to be quite dumb, don't you think? But I doubt there exist so dumb people here who doesn't understand, no matter how many times I explain. No one can be so dumb to have an IQ of below 75.
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Originally posted by smitty3268 View PostCome on, that's just FUD. Linux devs create all kinds of new stuff. The fact taht all I ever hear about from Solaris is ZFS and DTrace makes me think Linux probably comes up with a lot more in comparison.
Originally posted by smitty3268 View PostIt doesn't? I'm pretty sure it does in some minds, like mine for instance. Anyway, that bloated quote is taken completely out of context, as I'm sure you know. I bet if you asked Linus about Solaris he'd say it's bloated and buggy as well. Probably the same for every modern kernel in widespread use.
I can show you links where people basically say that Linux sucks and is buggy, and bloated. Links even from Linux kernel devs. If you believe I lie and FUD about this, I can prove it is not lies nor FUD. Do you want to see some links?
Originally posted by smitty3268 View PostOh, god, you're one of those people who starts talking about MENSA the second someone questions your intelligence. Sigh...
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Originally posted by kebabbert View PostI don't care how many amateur devs Linux have. Nothing new is invented in Linux. Linux devs just copy: ZFS, DTrace, etc. And the copies are bad.
Not to mention how bloated and buggy Linux is - as Linux kernel devs say. Including Linus T. Solaris dont have that bad reputation that Linux has.
I have done the informal MENSA test on their web site.
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Originally posted by kraftman View PostA source, please.
Originally posted by kraftman View PostBtw. just compare development power of Linux and Solaris and guess which one has a much more powerfull.
Originally posted by kraftman View PostAccording to some news even OpenSolaris guys thought it will die.
Originally posted by kraftman View PostYou're here!
I was actually referring to other people, those who don't understand what one write. You know, when I write something many times, and he just doesn't understand. Then he seem to be quite dumb, don't you think? But I doubt there exist so dumb people here who doesn't understand, no matter how many times I explain. No one can be so dumb to have an IQ of below 75.
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Originally posted by Dubhthach View Posttbh from a desktop point of view it's not really "Linux versus Windows" but "X11/Gnome/KDE versus Windows" your average enduser isn't gonna want a Linux machine because of the cool features in the scheduling system of the kernel.
This "X11/Gnome/KDE" stack is the same on OpenSolaris anyways, heck most of the human interoperability work done on Gnome over the last 10years was done by Sun with the goal of replacing CDE in Solaris.
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Originally posted by kebabbert View PostAlan has never stopped sending those mails. I am getting tired on some boneheaded people. Again, for the umpteen time: there are no signs that Oracle is killing Solaris or OpenSolaris. Instead, Larry has invested billions in Solaris, far more money than Linux. And he will invest even more money now. We have told you that umpteen times. But we just dont reach some of you guys.
"Solaris is dead". "ZFS is dead". etc. etc. It is really difficult to discuss with some people here. *Sigh*
EDIT: I have thought a bit on this. I doubt people are so mentally retarded that they dont understand. The only choice must be that they are FUDars and liars. That is far more probable, than some people having an IQ of 75 or lower. To have such a low IQ is very unlikely. Ergo: They understand what we write, but choose to ignore it because they are FUDers and liars.
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