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  • grok
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    Originally posted by alinhan View Post
    The article seems to suggest that the tablet is some sort of yet-to-be detailed product, while I'm pretty sure that it's the Librem 11, that was available for preorder and for which the specs have been available for over an year now:

    https://puri.sm/products/librem-11/
    That's too high end maybe? This is a "workstation" kind of tablet. Well done as the SSD is slotted (which Apple can't do on its "pro" hardware) but what it's not is an ARM product nor a cheaper alternative to the phone.
    But if you don't like the GUI or apps you can install Windows 10 or any PC distro and/or traditional desktop.

    Perhaps they look for some viable markets (middle class devs, business users, etc.) so I won't blame them for not doing some zero-margin product with uncertain appeal.

    tl;dr it's a PC similar to the Surface Pro and such.

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  • starshipeleven
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    Originally posted by Vistaus View Post
    Aaron Seigo, the guy behind it, said so himself: "In fact, Aaron and his small hardware development team were forced to engineer hardware from scratch. According to Aaron, there will be an open hardware tablet"

    Source: KDE Dot:
    https://dot.kde.org/2013/12/25/open-hardware-kde
    Seems written badly. here there is a direct quote http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online...e-Board-System
    “We made the very painful decision that the only way we were going to make this happen would be to get into some level of hardware development from scratch.”

    Which is not the same thing.

    From what I understood of the story they were OEMs, looking for pre-made SoCs with fully opensourced components (horribly hard to find) from lesser SoC manufacturer companies in Asia (so no big names like Qualcomm, something like Rockchip or Allwinner).

    But articles were always fuzzy in this regard. Did they publish some kind of silicon designs for their SoC somewhere?

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  • Vistaus
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    Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
    I've never seen any kind of actual specs (from a believable source anyway) for the Vivaldi tablet, where did they say it was 100% open "hardware"?
    Aaron Seigo, the guy behind it, said so himself: "In fact, Aaron and his small hardware development team were forced to engineer hardware from scratch. According to Aaron, there will be an open hardware tablet"

    Source: KDE Dot:
    https://dot.kde.org/2013/12/25/open-hardware-kde

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  • starshipeleven
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    Originally posted by Vistaus View Post
    You mean unlike the failed KDE tablet (Vivaldi)? 'Cause the Jolla tablet wasn't supposed to be 100% open hardware, unlike the failed KDE tablet and this new Purism tablet.
    I've never seen any kind of actual specs (from a believable source anyway) for the Vivaldi tablet, where did they say it was 100% open "hardware"?

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  • shmerl
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    Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

    You mean unlike the failed KDE tablet (Vivaldi)? 'Cause the Jolla tablet wasn't supposed to be 100% open hardware, unlike the failed KDE tablet and this new Purism tablet.
    Jolla tablet wasn't any more closed than KDE's one. Actually it had more chances to run open drivers - it used Intel GPU.

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  • GunpowaderGuy
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    i hope they use a gpu with open source vulkan drivers avaible

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  • L_A_G
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    Good for them, but I hope I'm not the only one worried they're being a bit to ambitious and trying to juggle too many projects at once. I was wrong about there not being enough interest to make the Librem phone happen so I wouldn't be too surprised if the tablet gets funded even quicker, but by splitting resources between the two major projects may affect both of them negatively.

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  • Vistaus
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    Originally posted by shmerl View Post
    I hope they'll succeed unlike the failed Jolla tablet. What hardware will it use?
    You mean unlike the failed KDE tablet (Vivaldi)? 'Cause the Jolla tablet wasn't supposed to be 100% open hardware, unlike the failed KDE tablet and this new Purism tablet.

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  • Vistaus
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    Originally posted by edwaleni View Post
    Ubuntu Touch Tablet. Been there, done that. Dead end.

    A Linux based tablet seems appealing, but the people I had test touch hated the scopes approach and the lack of apps. (I actually liked scopes)

    The linux nerds hated the fact you couldn't futz with it at will and the OTA updates wiped out any lower level changes they made.

    So what exactly do they hope to accomplish with a Linux tablet?

    Will the ability to flash the ROM be left open so advanced users can install new builds and kernels at will?

    Or will the ROM be a walled garden that can only be touched by the creator, where only sanctioned OTA updates are permitted?

    Personally, if you are going to make a tablet ecosystem in the spirit of Linux, the device should come with a ROM builder so the users can package and load the Linux builds they might generate. If it fails to load, it can be rebuilt/restored easily.
    There is no scopes approach here as GNOME Shell (or KDE Plasma) doesn't use scopes.

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  • edwaleni
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    Ubuntu Touch Tablet. Been there, done that. Dead end.

    A Linux based tablet seems appealing, but the people I had test touch hated the scopes approach and the lack of apps. (I actually liked scopes)

    The linux nerds hated the fact you couldn't futz with it at will and the OTA updates wiped out any lower level changes they made.

    So what exactly do they hope to accomplish with a Linux tablet?

    Will the ability to flash the ROM be left open so advanced users can install new builds and kernels at will?

    Or will the ROM be a walled garden that can only be touched by the creator, where only sanctioned OTA updates are permitted?

    Personally, if you are going to make a tablet ecosystem in the spirit of Linux, the device should come with a ROM builder so the users can package and load the Linux builds they might generate. If it fails to load, it can be rebuilt/restored easily.

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