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  • forum1793
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    Originally posted by Panix View Post
    I think WICD is now part of some distro packages, I'm not sure. But, will that solve anything?
    I had the trendnet tew 424 which used rtl8187b. Had to use ndiswrapper. I could see networks but could not connect to wpa2 until using wicd. Nothing else worked. I was/am using slackware and luckily rworkman released a package for slackware. It worked well.

    When using less than wpa2, but still using ndiswrapper, I once got a slow connection either by fiddling with rc.inet1 and/or rc.wireless, and maybe also after installing wireless-assistant.

    So I'm a believer in wicd.
    Last edited by forum1793; 26 July 2008, 11:03 AM.

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  • pflynn
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    I have a few D-Link DWL-122 dongles here that I bought on Ebay:



    The DWL-122 is a nice 802.11b USB Wifi device, based on the Prism 2.x chipset and works out of the box with Linux using the open-sourced drivers provided by the Linux-wlan project:


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    it is also fully supported on other systems such as OpenBSD (using the native wi driver). I can ever boot an OpenBSD CD and install the system using the network install with this USB Wifi adapter. Very nice device, yet being a little bit old.

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  • anyone
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    Yes both Mandriva and OpenSUSE have live-cd:s and neither required a reboot after configuring the network... OpenSUSE had one problem with it's network manager though; the user interface wasn't entirely clear to me at first and if you first configured wrong, you can't edit the connection to make it work. You have to remove it and make a new one...
    Mandriva had no such problem...

    And I think Ubuntu 7.04 worked with the adapter too; I haven't tried the newer versions.

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  • Panix
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    I'm wondering if it has to do with the drivers being optimized or built into the later kernel. I'm using a distro (Mepis) that is at 2.6.22.

    Mandriva and OpenSUSE are at 2.6.24 and 2.6.25, respectively, right? They both have LiveCDs (to test), right? Do either of them require a reboot when/after you setup your wireless usb adapter? I'd like to try both out to see if I have a similar experience to you.

    I'd use whatever distro allows me a smooth wireless connection since I think that is really important and should be a standard procedure nowadays even considering the difficulties of dealing with Windows-oriented hardware.

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  • anyone
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    Well... I have an A-link WL54USB wifi adapter, detected as "Zydas USB2.0 WLAN", and I have never have had any problems with it. Worked out of the box with Mandriva 2008.0 and 2008.1, and worked perfect with OpenSUSE 11.0 KDE4 Live CD, too. Didn't have to do anything but choose the network to connect to. It's odd that yours doesn't work...

    I have also used a USB-stick with r2500-chipset if I remember correctly, and can't get it to work. Except once with ndiswrapper, but even then it was very unreliable.

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  • Panix
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    I never said 'Network Manager' is a kernel thing. Read what I posted.

    I have now tried TWO (can you read that?!?) zydas/zd1211-based devices and neither work (out of the box). But, it's claimed it does work on the box on the Linux wireless site. Why that site is trying to promote devices/chipsets that don't work (without major tweaking is beyond me). I also don't know why sites like these don't do tests on usb wireless devices. I guess Linux users don't use them or don't care.

    I know the ubuntu forums and other busy Linux-oriented forums have tons of posts of people having troubles with their usb wireless devices. So many claim this and this works but there are NO instructions or evidence that 'DEVICE/CHIPSET A' works. How do I know this? Because everyone would be buying chipset/device A and announcing 'hey, easy as pie, buy this! And support Linux.'

    I've already been down this road before and if I had to rely only on Wireless like I did before, I would give up on the zydas/zd1211 chipset for good. What a sham.

    I don't know whether it's worth it to try the Ralink-based chipset devices. It just seems that NO ONE in the Linux world cares about making wireless work especially when it comes to usb-based adapters. USB wireless adapters are already in 'N' technology and you can't even find 'G' adapters that work. Sure, you can spend hours tweaking or hours upon hours fiddling with ndiswrapper but at least stop with claims that chipset XYZ works.

    I know it has worked before but it's inconsistent and it's not clear when and why it works.

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  • Redeeman
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    networkmanager isnt a kernel thing..

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  • Panix
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    I think I'm going to get one of the devices I listed in my original post. But, I think the zydas/zd1211rw has major issues. I believe they are using a MAC driver now. I can't get my Belkin adapter to work as it is rare that it works out of the box even though the drivers are supposedly built into the kernel (2.6.22+).

    I messed with it for so long in the past and just don't want to spend time doing that again. For this reason, I don't want to use ndiswrapper. I think that these should work out of the box, it's 2008 and wireless is required and very common. I know most manufacturers have to reverse-engineer since most of them are configured with Windows drivers but then the Linux developers should work on better network manager software. Why has Network Manager worked like utter crap for over 7 kernel updates/upgrades and why hasn't there been any decent alternatives? I think WICD is now part of some distro packages, I'm not sure. But, will that solve anything?

    I was frustrated with the Belkin although it did work at times but it seemed it always by chance. I will try another zydas/zd1211rw-based device and a device based on the Ralink rt73 chipset. I think for distros with the more recent kernels, those r73 chipsets are built in so maybe they work better?

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  • borgus
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    This was a couple years ago, and I'm sure support has gotten better since then, but I was none too impressed with a Zydas USB wireless adapter I got for my desktop. When it worked, it worked wonderfully (using the aforementioned zd1211 drivers), but the driver didn't successfully build for all the distro kernels I tried, and caused some seemingly random hard lockups on ones that did. Again, this was a couple years ago, and hopefully things have improved since then.

    After that, I got an Atheros-based wireless PCI card. Worked much better, and I used that for a while. Atheros-based PCMCIA cards (and probably also ExpressCard devices) are also widely available for laptops, and that is what I would recommend. Since then, I've moved the router closer to the desktop so I could hook it up wired, but that's my experience.

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  • Redeeman
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    what you want is a zd1211 device..

    the driver included in the kernel works excellently..

    the belkin one is weird, not all of those fd 7050 have zydas.

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