Free Software Foundation Endorses Its First Laptop

[dfx.]

"here's a general purpose, premium notebook that is 100% compatible with Coreboot, but for the record, you are limited to running Linux and versions of Windows no later than Windows 7 But it supports Coreboot, so it's all good"

says you on a Linux-centric forum. what a fucking tragedy !
and how exactly is it any worse than the usual "Windows or GTFO" attitude ? Linux-only devices would be a sign of long due respect, if nothing else.

it's time for hacky firmware bullshit to go.

~$500 for a 7 year old laptop with 1024x768 resolution?
the price of freedom is too high.

still is better than sweat, blood and tears.
Neo900 is rumoured to be what, 850€ ?

[peppercats]

~$500 for a 7 year old laptop with 1024x768 resolution?
the price of freedom is too high.

[pgeorgi]

Keyword being SeaBIOS only tested up to Windows 7.

Windows 8 is tested. I don't expect 8.1 to fail on those machines that run Windows 8, the ACPI support is quite complete, but I didn't get around to try yet.

but for the record, you are limited to running Linux and versions of Windows no later than Windows 7

I wonder how you come to _that_ conclusion. The OP didn't state that windows 8 doesn't work, but that they didn't test it. I did, and I'd expect any vendor intending to support Windows to do so, too.

[Sonadow]

Windows == no Coreboot? I beg to differ, the SeaBIOS payload is able to boot Windows up until 7, tested. However, according to the wiki some boards happen to not have a complete ACPI spec, which leads to failure, but it's as simple as taking one and testing it.

Keyword being SeaBIOS only tested up to Windows 7.

Windows 8? Windows 8.1? And the upcoming Windows codenamed Threshold?

Clevo cannot just slap on Coreboot on one of their high end machines and say "here's a general purpose, premium notebook that is 100% compatible with Coreboot, but for the record, you are limited to running Linux and versions of Windows no later than Windows 7 But it supports Coreboot, so it's all good".

Not going to happen. Its OEM partners and customers will be out for blood.

[mrugiero]

Clevo's target market are gamers and boutique OEMs selling high-performance gaming machines that run AAA titles at 60+ fps minimum. And such gaming machines run Windows, so no Coreboot.

Windows == no Coreboot? I beg to differ, the SeaBIOS payload is able to boot Windows up until 7, tested. However, according to the wiki some boards happen to not have a complete ACPI spec, which leads to failure, but it's as simple as taking one and testing it.

[Sonadow]

3GB of RAM, 1024 x 768. Can you really work with that?

3GB is sufficient for basic use; 1024 x 768 is useless for almost everything today.

I wonder whether Clevo would be interested in working with the FSF. Their bios is relatively shitty, so I would assume that they'd be more than happy to ditch it for a high quality replacement like coreboot. But they have relatively good displays (1920x1080 for even their smaller models) and modern mainboards where you can put modern CPUs and lots of ram. But what do I know, I'm just a stupid consumer...

Clevo's target market are gamers and boutique OEMs selling high-performance gaming machines that run AAA titles at 60+ fps minimum. And such gaming machines run Windows, so no Coreboot.

[brosis]

3GB of RAM, 1024 x 768. Can you really work with that?

I wonder whether Clevo would be interested in working with the FSF. Their bios is relatively shitty, so I would assume that they'd be more than happy to ditch it for a high quality replacement like coreboot. But they have relatively good displays (1920x1080 for even their smaller models) and modern mainboards where you can put modern CPUs and lots of ram. But what do I know, I'm just a stupid consumer...

My samsung galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition is far less efficient than that notebook, so yes, you can work with that. But sure needs SSD upgrade asap.

[dee.]

Damn, if they had the models that come with stylus input I'd be sold. The basic model doesn't interest me that much.

[ChrisXY]

3GB of RAM, 1024 x 768. Can you really work with that?

I wonder whether Clevo would be interested in working with the FSF. Their bios is relatively shitty, so I would assume that they'd be more than happy to ditch it for a high quality replacement like coreboot. But they have relatively good displays (1920x1080 for even their smaller models) and modern mainboards where you can put modern CPUs and lots of ram. But what do I know, I'm just a stupid consumer...

[Sonadow]

7 year old hardware for 300 pounds.

WAH HA HA.

I'll stick with 300 pound modern budget notebooks with proprietary UEFI firmware and proprietary Intel / AMD microcode for the latest CPUs and GPUs that run rings around the Meroms / Yoonahs and boast superior battery uptime.