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Originally posted by chris200x9 View PostI've been reading a lot of comments various places that say something like "I know it won't make it so I'll pledge just to show support and be out no money." I really REALLY hope Shuttleworth trolls errybody and just pledges the other 20-ish million at the last minute.
Bad for Ubuntu Edge, because the whole point of this little campaign is to show that people are actually interested in owning such a device. Mark paying 2/3 just verifies a lack of interest from a wider audience. - It would be akin to a youtuber buying views for his channel, rather than earning them based on the quality of their content/channel.
Likewise, Mark/Canonical not funding it directly, in the first place - it shows they don't really believe in the product to begin with. ie: if the Ubuntu Edge is going to be so amazing (and potentially successful), then they should have had a enough confidence to put up their own money at risk. (Like any other company / entrepreneur typically does). - But we know why they didn't do that; Canonical isn't a profitable company and many of their projects tend to be vaporware / headed for the trash. They would rather gamble their users money, since if the end product sux, it won't matter - they are out nothing.
anyway, we will see, but it looks (to me) pretty unlikely this Ubuntu Edge campaign is going to work out...
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Originally posted by ninez View PostThat would look bad not only for Ubuntu Edge, but also for Canonical.
Bad for Ubuntu Edge, because the whole point of this little campaign is to show that people are actually interested in owning such a device. Mark paying 2/3 just verifies a lack of interest from a wider audience. - It would be akin to a youtuber buying views for his channel, rather than earning them based on the quality of their content/channel.
Likewise, Mark/Canonical not funding it directly, in the first place - it shows they don't really believe in the product to begin with. ie: if the Ubuntu Edge is going to be so amazing (and potentially successful), then they should have had a enough confidence to put up their own money at risk. (Like any other company / entrepreneur typically does). - But we know why they didn't do that; Canonical isn't a profitable company and many of their projects tend to be vaporware / headed for the trash. They would rather gamble their users money, since if the end product sux, it won't matter - they are out nothing.
anyway, we will see, but it looks (to me) pretty unlikely this Ubuntu Edge campaign is going to work out...
The Ubuntu Edge was mostly a Ad campaign if i remember some one was talking to Mark and thats what he tolded them (trying to find the Link)
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Originally posted by LinuxGamer View PostThe Ubuntu Edge was mostly a Ad campaign if i remember some one was talking to Mark and thats what he tolded them (trying to find the Link)
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Originally posted by ninez View PostI've probably seen what you are talking about (and/or other interviews). It was not just an Ad campaign ~ but yes, that was one goal of it for sure, but certainly not the only goal...
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Originally posted by peppercats View Postshuttleworth has never been known to lie
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actually i'd give him a hug as well as a punch; he has done more for the cause than against it...Last edited by quequotion; 19 August 2013, 03:21 PM. Reason: not that i'd ever actually punch someone over linux
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1. This is a phone aimed at enthusiasts, geeks, developers, fans and open source software advocates. The price is too prohibitive for it to be marketed towards the average end user.
2. Ubuntu currently has about a third (30-40%) of the market share of desktop Linux home users.
3. If Canonical hadn't alienated the rest of the Linux community with their earlier bad decisions, this phone could have been popular within the entire desktop Linux community. Remember, that this is a phone aimed at enthusiasts, geeks etc. and therefore its demographic is very well aware of the politics and drama around the Linux community. Instead of gaining the support of the wider Linux-geek audience, Canonical has, by their earlier actions, limited their audience only to the Ubuntu fans, ie. those who stick to Ubuntu's side in the great division caused by Canonical's actions.
4. With a simple math equation, we can see that Canonical now only got 40% (giving a generous estimate) of the support they could have got for this phone, were it not for their earlier bad decisions. This means, that as they now got 11 million, they would have gotten 27.5 million instead. That still isn't quite enough to meet the 32M goal, but it would be much closer, and it would probably mean that more businesses would become interested and foot the rest of the bill.
5. Therefore, we can conclude: Mir + dash adware killed the Ubuntu Edge. Canonical only has themselves to blame.
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Originally posted by LinuxGamer View Postand thats why i said mostly, from what he said it was 1st PR and, 2ed to make a Phone so Mark did not care at all if the Phone got made or not, but now they're getting there app's made for it
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