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    erendorn
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  • erendorn
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    Originally posted by chrisb View Post
    Prove it. If you are right that this campaign failed because Ubuntu is using Mir, then you can set up a "Wayland phone" Indiegogo campaign and raise $32 million. Just copy the Edge campaign but say that you will use Wayland instead of Mir. Should be easy. Obviously there are 50,000 fans who would fund a Wayland phone but not a Mir phone.
    Ah yes. Either it had zero impact, or it's the only thing that counted.
    In between is for the weak.

    What don't you get in "a portion of users", or "not negligible"?

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  • chrisb
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  • chrisb
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    Originally posted by erendorn View Post
    Nope, but this is mostly because there aren't millions of Linux enthusiasts. Among those Linux enthusiast, the proportion who base their choice of phone on the Mir debacle is not negligible anymore.
    I've said it a dozen time already, but if you target a population as your market, only the characteristics of this population count.
    Prove it. If you are right that this campaign failed because Ubuntu is using Mir, then you can set up a "Wayland phone" Indiegogo campaign and raise $32 million. Just copy the Edge campaign but say that you will use Wayland instead of Mir. Should be easy. Obviously there are 50,000 fans who would fund a Wayland phone but not a Mir phone.

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  • synaptix
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    Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols

    Anyone who is anyone that reads ZDnet knows that this guy is beyond a Linux fanatic. He is the very definition of what it means to NOT help Linux grow in any way or form.

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  • blackout23
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  • blackout23
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    Originally posted by Loranga View Post
    Is it likely that Mark himself, through a company, will buy the rest of the phones in the last minute? He has to chip in almost $20M on his own, risking of sitting with a huge unsold inventory of phones that still does not exist. On the other hand he will receive those $12M already paid/donated, which he otherwise has to wave goodbye to.
    No, since he already said that he won't do that, because it misses the point of the campaign which was to show that there is demand for such a phone. Obviously there isn't demand. How many would use it as an actual desktop replacement anyway? You'd have to buy some docking shit first and carry it around if you want to use your phone somewhere else. Why should you use it like this at home? Everyone has a PC or Laptop which is many times more powerful than any mobile CPU that will be released in the coming months. No one really wants to have one device for everything, because that means you loose everything at once, too. KDEs idea of convergence is much better. Simply integrate the phone into the desktop over the air just like AirDroid does.
    blackout23
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    Last edited by blackout23; 21 August 2013, 07:06 AM.

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  • Loranga
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  • Loranga
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    Is it likely that Mark himself, through a company, will buy the rest of the phones in the last minute? He has to chip in almost $20M on his own, risking of sitting with a huge unsold inventory of phones that still does not exist. On the other hand he will receive those $12M already paid/donated, which he otherwise has to wave goodbye to.

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  • erendorn
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  • erendorn
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    Originally posted by chrisb View Post
    Hella popular... Yeah, maybe there really are millions of hard core Linux enthusiasts out there who base their choice of phone on the display server that it comes with...
    Nope, but this is mostly because there aren't millions of Linux enthusiasts. Among those Linux enthusiast, the proportion who base their choice of phone on the Mir debacle is not negligible anymore.
    I've said it a dozen time already, but if you target a population as your market, only the characteristics of this population count.

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  • chrisb
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    Originally posted by dee. View Post
    But yeah, a Wayland phone would probably be hella popular. Too bad no one's making one so we'll never know... oh wait. http://phoronix.com/forums/showthrea...red-By-Wayland
    Hella popular... Yeah, maybe there really are millions of hard core Linux enthusiasts out there who base their choice of phone on the display server that it comes with...

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  • TheBlackCat
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  • TheBlackCat
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    Originally posted by johnc View Post
    hella popular, huh? How many have they sold...?
    Don't know, but their special edition pre-order has apparently sold out.

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  • johnc
    Official X.org Fanboy

  • johnc
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    Originally posted by dee. View Post
    But yeah, a Wayland phone would probably be hella popular. Too bad no one's making one so we'll never know... oh wait. http://phoronix.com/forums/showthrea...red-By-Wayland
    hella popular, huh? How many have they sold...?

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  • dee.
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  • dee.
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    Originally posted by chrisb View Post
    And I suppose all of these enthusiasts who are angry with Canonical would sign up to buy a future $695 phone running Wayland? No, thought not.
    No, not all of them, just like not all of Ubuntu users are doing it. But there's the portion of users willing to pay that much for a developer phone, and that's what we're looking at here.

    And it's not just about Wayland. The poor way the dash ads were handled, the way Unity was released (personally, I have nothing against Unity as such, it's just another UI, but many people disliked and still dislike it, and the first version in 11.04 was buggy as hell, making a terrible first impression), the way Pulseaudio was released... it's a long chain of bad decisions, but I think many of those could have been forgiven - the really bad ones started from the dash adware, which was what broke the camels back for many, and Mir was just shitty icing on the turd cake after that.

    But yeah, a Wayland phone would probably be hella popular. Too bad no one's making one so we'll never know... oh wait. http://phoronix.com/forums/showthrea...red-By-Wayland

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