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  • phoronix
    started a topic 2012 MacBook Air Isn't Trouble-Free On Linux

    2012 MacBook Air Isn't Trouble-Free On Linux

    Phoronix: 2012 MacBook Air Isn't Trouble-Free On Linux

    While lately I've been busy with trying out the Retina MacBook Pro under Linux, which has been a big problem and I'm not recommending the rMBP for Linux users at this time (more details soon), it looks like the new MacBook Air might also have some Linux woes...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTE1ODA

  • mr_manny
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    Originally posted by ajbuck68 View Post
    Are you running Mountain Lion? I can't get mine to work at all, and I think it's because I upgraded to 10.8
    Sorry, no Mac OS...single boot ubuntu 12.04 only.

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  • ajbuck68
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    Originally posted by mr_manny View Post
    [email protected]:~$ uname -a
    Linux MacBookAir 3.2.0-24-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP Mon May 21 16:52:17 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
    [email protected]:~$

    Some trackpad guesters and slightly less battery life are about the only issues you adjust to when running linux on an MBA.

    for me, the improved os env benefits out weigh the issues listed above


    ubutu 12.04 on MacBookAir4,2 (MBA 2011)
    Are you running Mountain Lion? I can't get mine to work at all, and I think it's because I upgraded to 10.8

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  • 3diStan
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    Originally posted by russofris View Post
    Yeah, like more ram, more storage, a keyboard, and the ability to run a multitasking desktop OS. Oh, wait.....
    well, i sure expect for apple's sake that it does have all those given the price premium.
    What i don't understand is why it has a much lower screen resolution, especially because the higher resolution would be much more important on a notebook than on a tablet (and of course because the macbook air has such a price premium that you'd take it for granted that it would _at least_ have the same resolution as the cheaper device)

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  • russofris
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    Originally posted by blackout23 View Post
    True. OSX on Intel Hardware somewhat possible. OSX on AMD really tricky. I'd also say that it has more to do with Apple than the
    current state of linux kernel development.
    Indeed. There's even an entire community dedicated to supporting OSX on non-apple hardware, including as a VMWare guest. Aside from contributing in a tangential, if not entirely unintended fashion, Apple has almost nothing to do with Linux. I don't think that they're actively trying to prevent Linux from working on their hardware, I just think that they don't care. I've noticed the same thing about the hackintosh community. Apple could, with little effort, make it extremely difficult to run OSX on non-apple hardware. They don't, because it's not on their agenda. Why spend cycles killing a community that loves your products when you could spend the dev time making the product better? Running OSX on a Dell/HP is a very different experience from running on OSX on a Mac.

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  • blackout23
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    Originally posted by kraftman View Post
    Because article sucks. Try running os x on something different than apple's hardware and you'll run into troubles.
    True. OSX on Intel Hardware somewhat possible. OSX on AMD really tricky. I'd also say that it has more to do with Apple than the
    current state of linux kernel development.

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  • curaga
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    Originally posted by AdamW View Post
    One specific note: talking about the Z, 'the storage requires using fake RAID' isn't quite the best summary. More accurate is just 'the system uses fake RAID out of the box' - (most) Zs have two SSDs inside, which are by default configured as BIOS RAID-0 for increased performance.
    That's pretty horrible. You advertised those as great reliable models, and then it comes out that they default to RAID-0. For the new readers here, the 0 stands for how many files you get back when one disk fails.

    Then there's the physical space, weight and power used by two disks instead of one.

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  • susikala
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    God take ***** and every prick who uses it.

    Or in Arabic: Every dog has its day.

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  • kraftman
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    Originally posted by russofris View Post
    Why are we blaming Apple and Sony for the kernel's inability to deal with mobile implementations of Ivy bridge? Why are we even placing blame to begin with. Install linux (or try), file bugs, fix bugs, linux works. This is our SDLC. It seems like every time an OEM/HAR/VAR releases a new product, people bitch and moan as if they have committed some great injustice.

    Everyone stop B&M. We have cool new tech to play with. This is exciting. This is fun.

    F
    Because article sucks. Try running os x on something different than apple's hardware and you'll run into troubles.

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  • AdamW
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    So...to summarize this entire thread 'minor bugs in support for very new hardware, THE SKY IS FALLING'?

    There's nothing at all new about any of this. When extremely new hardware comes out from _any_ vendor there's usually some quirks in the Linux support. Early adopters report this, and they get fixed.

    When I got the 2010 Vaio Z soon after it came out, the video didn't work at all with either adapter without the proprietary NVIDIA driver, the sound didn't work, and the keyboard failed to work on one boot out of ten. And probably some other stuff I've forgotten. A couple months later, all of these were fixed. It's the same story with Apples. It's nothing remotely new. I would be amazed if most of these issues aren't fixed in a few weeks.

    One specific note: talking about the Z, 'the storage requires using fake RAID' isn't quite the best summary. More accurate is just 'the system uses fake RAID out of the box' - (most) Zs have two SSDs inside, which are by default configured as BIOS RAID-0 for increased performance. But they're just disks, and the BIOS works like any other - you can reformat 'em as BIOS RAID-1 if you like, or switch them to regular mode and use them as separate disks or use kernel softRAID if you like (this is what the blog post author did). It's just how the stock config happens to be.

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