Framework Laptop Launches AMD Ryzen Upgradeable Laptop, Intel Raptor Lake Models Too

[royce]

Nice but I don't get the focus on upgrade capability in a laptop. If Framework really wanted to get me as a customer, a focus on reliability, ruggedness and low power, would be the selling points. After years of running Intel laptops the one thing that Apple's MBA M1 has taught me is that the I86 world doesn't get it. Lower power usage (long run times) and high performance in a light package beats most other concerns. Admittedly it is too bad Apple doesn't get some of their user concerns (they should be actively supporting Linux on this machine) but they make real the idea of a high performance laptop that goes for days on a battery charge.

I can give you an example of my personal experience. I currently have an XPS 9560, and I absolutely adore this laptop. Amazing 4K 15.6" screen, beautiful shell, keyboard, i/o, 32GB DDR4 3200 RAM, 1TB PM961 nvme SSD. Everything on this laptop is brilliant, but the CPU itself is getting long on the tooth - the 4 core 8 thread i7-7700HQ is starting to show its age with the stuff I am working on these days. This is a £2000 laptop. If I could drop in a new motherboard with an updated CPU and keep all the rest I would be saving a ton of money. Motherboards for framework laptop go for around £600 with a decent CPU on them.

I reckon I'm upgrading this year to the 16" framework.

[Grim85]

And ofc the framework website does not offer any information on whether the Ryzen variant will support USB4.0 at all/with or without PCIe tunneling or at which speeds (20Gbit/s vs 40Gbit/s)

The engadget article covering it suggests that two module bays are full USB 4.0 and 1 is USB 3.2 with DP and the last one is just USB 3.2 - its the compromise you have to make for the different platform I guess

https://www.engadget.com/framework-brings-updated-intel-and-amd-chips-to-its-modular-laptop-170003842.html?guccounter=1

[Hans Bull]

I presume it comes with M$ "TPM" blackbox?

[NM64]

After years of running Intel laptops the one thing that Apple's MBA M1 has taught me is that the I86 world doesn't get it. Lower power usage (long run times) and high performance in a light package beats most other concerns.

Maybe, just maybe, the bolded and underlined has something to do with it.


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Finally an option. They were not, when they did only offer Intel.

Plain and simple, I do not want Intel. Not in Zen era. And specially not in a laptop, where AMD is so much better that every Intel laptop simply looks bad.

[darkdragon-001]

If they just offered Coreboot, it would be such a great laptop!

[Nichiren]

I just wish they'd offer an option for keyboard with trackpoint. A functional one, like old Thinkpads, not like the crap HP puts in theirs. And no touchpad option along with it.

[stiiixy]

So, are we seeing a very real possibility of multiple M.2 ports on the mobo a la SATA? It's been a dream of mine, but seeing as they're being utilised for many other things other than storage, such as that AliExpress machine above, it might start becoming a reality.

I'm well aware we have dual ports, but eh, MORE!

[erniv2]

Not only changeable graphics, you can also use that slot for a dual M.2 module. Very exciting.

Did you know that you can run a 4090 trough a M.2 slot ?

(4) VERRÜCKT!! Die externe RTX 4090 von Aliexpress... #GamingSchrott - YouTube

Frankenstein pc from aliexpress minipc with laptop cpu and watercooling now the new M.2 riser card and a nvidia sponsored 4090 and it boots without probs kekeke.

[ezst036]

Nice but I don't get the focus on upgrade capability in a laptop.

It's not for upgrade capability, it's for longevity.

[mihau]

Looks nice, just pls don't have AMD Platform Secure Boot / Hardware Validated Boot enabled. Lemme change the BIOS as I please