Booting Linux On A Modern AMD Ryzen 6000 Series Laptop / ThinkPad X13 Gen3

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Phoronix: Booting Linux On A Modern AMD Ryzen 6000 Series Laptop / ThinkPad X13 Gen3

Earlier this week Linux security researcher Matthew Garrett shared that Lenovo's newer AMD Rembrandt laptops with Microsoft's Pluton security co-processor would not boot Linux by default. The issue stems from the third-party UEFI certificate not being enabled by default and it turns out is something Microsoft is seemingly now enforcing. Fortunately, I had a Lenovo ThinkPad X13 Gen3 with Ryzen 7 PRO 6850U on the way and so was now able to test this experience under Linux.

https://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=31308

[szymon_g]

Im just gonna get some popcorn

[AHSauge]

Time for EU to slap Microsoft with another fine. This kind of market manipulation isn't acceptable.

[birdie]

So, a single switch in BIOS? OMG, such a drama. Not.

Time for EU to slap Microsoft with another fine. This kind of market manipulation isn't acceptable.

Market manipulation? Um, what? Linux has become a commercial OS and it's competing with Windows for the desktop? Where can I buy Linux (RHEL and other mostly server subscriptions aside)? Microsoft or OEMs prevent you from using Linux or other OSes? Doesn't look like it at all. Secure boot can be disabled all you want. The third-party key can be enabled all you want.

There's nothing to discuss here. There was never any issue in the first place.

[ServerGarbage]

So, a single switch in BIOS? OMG, such a drama. Not.



Market manipulation? Um, what? Linux has become a commercial OS and it's competing with Windows for the desktop? Where can I buy Linux (RHEL and other mostly server subscriptions aside)? Microsoft or OEMs prevent you from using Linux or other OSes? Doesn't look like it at all. Secure boot can be disabled all you want. The third-party key can be enabled all you want.

There's nothing to discuss here. There was never any issue in the first place.

Market manipulation against something that's free is market manipulation too. If bottled water companies lobby against public water fountains is market manipulation.

[cytomax55]

So, a single switch in BIOS? OMG, such a drama. Not.



Market manipulation? Um, what? Linux has become a commercial OS and it's competing with Windows for the desktop? Where can I buy Linux (RHEL and other mostly server subscriptions aside)? Microsoft or OEMs prevent you from using Linux or other OSes? Doesn't look like it at all. Secure boot can be disabled all you want. The third-party key can be enabled all you want.

There's nothing to discuss here. There was never any issue in the first place.

This isn't for established users like yourself that are competent technical people...
This is for new people that want to try Linux for the first time and dont even know what EUFI is.. it's an extra step and is discrimination

[birdie]

Market manipulation against something that's free is market manipulation too. If bottled water companies lobby against public water fountains is market manipulation.

How are they manipulating the market again?

This isn't for established users like yourself that are competent technical people...
This is for new people that want to try Linux for the first time and dont even know what EUFI is.. it's an extra step and is discrimination

Linux is not for non-competent technical people. Android is, ChromeOS is, Linux distros certainly are not. /Thread

[AHSauge]

Market manipulation? Um, what? Linux has become a commercial OS and it's competing with Windows for the desktop? Where can I buy Linux (RHEL and other mostly server subscriptions aside)? Microsoft or OEMs prevent you from using Linux or other OSes? Doesn't look like it at all. Secure boot can be disabled all you want. The third-party key can be enabled all you want.

Forcing OEMs to implement steps making it harder to install an alternative OS is of course market manipulation. Not everyone is tech savy enough to know what to do to get around it. If you've paid any attention before, you know Microsoft have been given fines for similar tactics related to browsers.

[Svyatko]

Microsoft's exact verbage

"Verbage " is a slang word for Microsoft comments about free and libre software, mixture of "verbae" (latin), "verbiage" (vulgar latin?), and "garbage".

Thanks to Michael, I'm learning something new every day.

[Svyatko]

Linux is not for non-competent technical people. Android is, ChromeOS is, Linux distros certainly are not. /Thread

I know people with 5+ years of Linux experience, who are certainly "non-competent technical people".