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  • #41
    Originally posted by CochainComplex View Post

    Im lucky that my employer is providing me this beauty of machine with Xeon too. But I have to admit once you had been on a 15"@4k you don't want to go back. It is not only the resolution but the Dell 7560 wiht UHD Display provides full sRGB. Which makes the colours really astonishing.
    If you have to handle a lot of scientifical plots and you have to compare them its quite handy that this display renders them lasersharp.
    I think 1080p is the bare minimum on a modern 15" and 4k the optimum. If price is not a huge concern.

    I dont like Apple Products but the "retina" marketing is somehow right. A ergonomical designed display, if technical possible, should slightly outperform the retina resolution (considering all the distance focusing, blur of eyelense ..bla anatomy).
    I went from having an Alienware 15 with a [email protected] screen to the ASUS AMD Advantage with [email protected] and I'm not missing the extra pixels - thankfully

    Mostly because there's still to many weird graphical issues with Plasma under X11 with HiDPI, it's even worse if you switch between Wayland and X11 - which you think there would be tests to make sure it displays *exactly* the same

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    • #42
      Originally posted by CochainComplex View Post

      Yes Intel is bribing OEMs better than AMD. IMHO
      Yes, I'm sure Intel is bribing OEMs using AMD CPUs to pair them with Nvidia dGPUs instead of AMD dGPUs . Your comment makes zero sense given the context of what you quoted. We were talking about the dearth of all AMD laptops with discrete GPUs. There are tons of offerings with Zen + Nvidia.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by om26er View Post
        Does it come with working suspend/resume ? Previous experience with the Ryze 5XXX series hasn't been good on Ubuntu
        You mean on laptop or desktop? 'Cause suspend/resume is working fine on my Ryzen 5900HX, but it's a desktop.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by funtastic View Post
          I got one of these Clevo laptops (in this case rebranded as Gigabyte) and I can even use the tuxedo drivers for keyboard lights/fan control. These are nice laptops that are good for gaming, because they are not thin so they don't get throttled. However, I can't see how someone would pay double of what this laptop is really worth just to have a "Tuxedo" or "System76" sticker on top of it (unless you are a freetard of course).
          Huh? Tuxedo rebrands Tongfang laptops, not Clevo laptops.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by brucethemoose View Post

            I dont even game on linux, and I still like it. I would prefer 4K, but I would not prefer 1440p.

            in fact, I think resolution is *more* advantageous in games, especially outside of mega fidelity AAAs (which would push these smaller laptop GPUs too hard).
            Unless games do jack with the resolution. For example, the entire Kingdom Rush series supports 1440p and even 4K, but in the gameplay there's just as much useable screen real estate as on 1080p, because they only scale up the graphics, but not the maps. :/

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

              Huh? Tuxedo rebrands Tongfang laptops, not Clevo laptops.
              Does Tongfang produce better build qualities than Clevo? Clevo's build quality is pretty bad.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

                Huh? Tuxedo rebrands Tongfang laptops, not Clevo laptops.

                Tuxedo does rebrand Clevo laptops, see many examples on this table: https://bitbucket.org/tuxedocomputer...mi/src/master/

                An example on images: CLEVO PC70DS-D: https://clevo-computer.com/en/hot-of...tx-3080?c=1425

                Resold by Tuxedo: https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/en/L...7-Gen12.tuxedo
                Resold by System76: https://system76.com/laptops/oryx

                I don't see the point of trying to contradict me, I am telling you I am running the tuxedo driver on my Clevo laptop unless you suggest I'm making it up...

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by FireBurn View Post

                  I'm running 5.17-rc2 with a few backported patches from what will be 5.18 to get the wifi working on a warm reboot

                  Suspend issues now gone, things work great, especially for gaming
                  Agree with the gaming point. I was amazed how well the 6800M handles things at 1440p, even when I crank everything to maximum on something like Kingdom Come: Deliverance (which had almost as much of a reputation for being a GPU killer as the original Crysis, but, of course, CryEngine)...

                  But I'm really disappointed with compute performance.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx View Post

                    Yes, I'm sure Intel is bribing OEMs using AMD CPUs to pair them with Nvidia dGPUs instead of AMD dGPUs . Your comment makes zero sense given the context of what you quoted. We were talking about the dearth of all AMD laptops with discrete GPUs. There are tons of offerings with Zen + Nvidia.
                    It seems you haven't thought through my thought thoroughly.
                    To give it a Context https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanc..._v._Intel_Corp.

                    Now, to my point: At the moment OEMs are offering more intel Laptop variants/combinations then AMD ones. Just have a look at the big players Dell and Lenovo. Dispite the fact that AMD is offering at least equal performing mobile CPU's to a competitive pricepoint. Just by the statistics(<- lets highlight this) of the permutations of configuration options it is less likely that you will find a desired AMD CPU/GPU combo than a Intel CPU; AMD/Nvidia GPU one.

                    Back to the context intro I gave earlier. Intel is know for its history of harming rules of the free market by illegal actions - bribeing OEM.
                    The demand of AMD Laptop requests is rising since the debut of Zen 1 ...why are there still not enough AMD options? Do we still have a ratio of 10:1 Intel:AMD? This should be enough informations to be able to understand my comment derived by statistics and a potential market manipulation.
                    Last edited by CochainComplex; 03 February 2022, 04:51 AM.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by FireBurn View Post

                      I went from having an Alienware 15 with a [email protected]0Hz screen to the ASUS AMD Advantage with [email protected] and I'm not missing the extra pixels - thankfully

                      Mostly because there's still to many weird graphical issues with Plasma under X11 with HiDPI, it's even worse if you switch between Wayland and X11 - which you think there would be tests to make sure it displays *exactly* the same
                      ok, from the gaming point of view I would also prefer your screen option. But as said earlier it is a work Laptop
                      Last edited by CochainComplex; 03 February 2022, 04:59 AM.

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