The Framework Laptop Is Great For A Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop

[sarmad]

Does anyone here know where to get a Linux compatible 17" laptop with Ryzen processor and a decent Radeon GPU (not just an integrated one)? Even Tuxedo only has Nvidia crap.

You probably won't find any 17" AMD laptops; the options are very few for AMD dGPU. Search for AMD Advantage laptops. You basically are limited to 15.6/16.1 inch screen laptops, and some are only available in USA. If you are ok with going below 17" then the two good options are probably MSI Delta and HP Omen.

https://www.msi.com/Laptops/Products#?tag=Delta-Series

https://www.hp.com/ca-en/shop/produc...pt=ABL&sel=NTB

The specs for both are good, but I'm not sure about the compatibility. I personally use an MSI GS66 (with nVidia) and I'm generally happy with the Linux compatibility so I'm guessing the MSI Delta would also be good. I couldn't buy the Delta because I live in Canada and it's not sold over here

There is also the stupid ROG Strix, if you are ok living without a webcam in 2021.

[Linuxxx]

Hmmm, how did Manjaro manage to dominate others that much, it seems that on most tests it's 20-25% faster?

Manjaro was the only distro without "Thermald" running by default.
Do note though that these results are contrary to previous benchmarks showing improvements with thermald on Tiger Lake SoCs.
Would certainly be interesting to know why such mutually exclusive outcomes do occur!

Michael
I just noticed that PTS doesn't seem to report the I/O-scheduler settings on the system overview table anymore.
Any reason for that?

[Michael]

Manjaro was the only distro without "Thermald" running by default.
Do note though that these results are contrary to previous benchmarks showing improvements with thermald on Tiger Lake SoCs.
Would certainly be interesting to know why such mutually exclusive outcomes do occur!

Michael
I just noticed that PTS doesn't seem to report the I/O-scheduler settings on the system overview table anymore.
Any reason for that?

It does, only when there is a 'disk' benchmark included as part of the run queue. In this case there wasn't any disk-specific benchmarks being run... Though may make sense broadening it to also show it for system benchmarks too, but namely was to minimize amount of data like when saying only running gaming benchmarks that the I/O scheduler doesn't matter all that much.

[igxqrrl]

I've been following this. Some parts of the concept are fantastic. I love the repairability!

But honestly the USB-C -> arbitrary port feels silly to me. The reality is that by providing a couple USB-C, a couple USB-A, an SD reader, an HDMI port, and an ethernet port you've covered 98% of the use-cases, and the other 2% probably don't mind a dongle. The most useful expansion card for me would be an ethernet port. Which they don't offer, and probably won't fit due to the card's form factor. So yeah. I'd much rather they just put the useful stuff as standard. Have one or two card slots for extra storage or what-not.

I also don't like that the USB-A and USB-C expansions offer only a single port. It looks like they could manage a couple; maybe my size-o-meter is off.

[Linuxxx]

It does, only when there is a 'disk' benchmark included as part of the run queue. In this case there wasn't any disk-specific benchmarks being run... Though may make sense broadening it to also show it for system benchmarks too, but namely was to minimize amount of data like when saying only running gaming benchmarks that the I/O scheduler doesn't matter all that much.

Alright then thanks, that's good to know!

And IMHO, always showing that info regardless of benchmarks being run would absolutely make sense, because as an example the BFQ I/O-scheduler definitely helps out to reduce stutter when reading & writing a lot of shaders to a cache during gameplay.

[coder]

Reminds me of my old Pentium M laptop. 15.8" 1920x1200 screen. I upgraded the RAM, optical drive, HDD (swapped with a SSD), got a PC card Gig-E NIC that ran hot as hell and was good for less than half the wire speed, and even swapped out the CPU! Allegedly, the graphics card could also be upgraded, but I didn't look into any of that. Oh, and removable battery FTW!

These days, my personal laptop is a Thinkpad 13. Since the pandemic, it spends all its time hooked up to my TV, as an overpriced streaming box.

[kylew77]

I've seen some articles by purchasers that this framework laptop also works great under FreeBSD and OpenBSD for what it is worth.

[Raka555]

I mean, the nice thing about this is that the lifetime of each component is not tied to the others. If you break the chassis, you get a chassis; if you want a new CPU, you swap the main board; if they iterate on the touchpad, you swap the touchpad.

This was the idea with the original PC as well.
Over time more and more things got integrated on the motherboard.

[hoohoo]

Love the kill switches.

[microcode]

This was the idea with the original PC as well.
Over time more and more things got integrated on the motherboard.

... Not sure what your point is; there's not really any point in like... printing the main board into the chassis material or something, so I don't know what sort of weird integration you're thinking of.