Intel: AMD Weak On Battery-Powered Laptop Performance - But DPTF On Linux Still Suck

[tildearrow]

Michael The Article doesn't link to the comment thread, it links to the the forum only.

OK, I'll be honest here. Apparently Michael thought danmcgrew was insulting him for using the word "gimps", but that is wrong. He misunderstood.
danmcgrew was insulting the SJWs who like to replace words for no reason, but Michael took it seriously and broke the article...

Request to change the name back to Gimps.

[edwaleni]

AMD released the Dali based Athlon 3050e Silver, a 6w stripped down Raven Ridge Zen 1 with a Vega 3 that beats a 4C J4115 Celeron running at 12W.

Sounds pretty good to me.

[Spacefish]

Am I the only one who picked up on the use of a now-socially-unacceptable term, by no less than the esteemed owner of this website? To wit:

.... brain-dead, mouth-breathing, room-temperature-IQ SJWs.

From the holder of a MASTER'S DEGREE, who is a MASTER ELECTRICIAN, and who teaches MASTER-SLAVE flip-flops in a logic design course...and who will never cave in to all you pathetic, social-justice-seeking queerdos and LBJQMNORST...effetes who have no real work to do, except to agitate; and tell the rest of us how you THINK we should act. For all of you, I have a parting, sincere, heartfelt suggestion: fuck you, AND your agendas.

Not sure if some of these words will get "blacklisted" or if we will have a pure whitelist internet in the future

[Yoshi]

Michael The Article doesn't link to the comment thread, it links to the the forum only.

[spiritofreason]

This would appear to simply be a different approach to battery life. Intel follows the "race-to-idle" approach, where the CPU turbos to one of the least efficient operating points to finish a task as fast as possible and return to the lowest power point.

AMD seems to want the CPU to operate some percentage slower for possibly significantly better energy efficiency (extending battery life, reducing noise, etc.) unless the task is running long enough to suggest a need for that higher performance.

If AMD's approach doesn't significantly impact the *feel* of responsiveness, I'd put my money on them. Intel's gets them pretty benchmark results for short workloads, but that seems like a silly thing to hyper-optimize for. But it'd be nice to see more data about the energy efficiency: Bring on the benchmarks!

[birdie]

They are also briefly going over thermals and battery life in part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x8SAAk_J4c
I did go over Intels finding and take it with a large grain of salt. Hardware Unboxed as a reviewer is way more unbiased.

The review has nothing to do with the issue being discussed. I do understand you're a fan of HW unboxed but it's 100% offtopic here.

[caligula]

Ok, so Intel is suggesting a large scale switch to M1 Macbooks ? https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/17/ye...blow-you-away/

[tildearrow]

Ugh, danmcgrew. I hereby agree with you regarding the SJW matter, but the nitpick and your unflattering rhetoric has caused the thread to tremble and crumble the bond with the front page's unfurl.

The peasants who crave this auditorium are lost in turmoil... :<

[Sonadow]

Linux always had crap power management compared to Windows.

On a Skylake laptop with Power Saving enabled for Windows, intel_pstate + igpu frequencies locked to lowest on Fedora, and with brightness dialed down to 10%, i got slightly more than five hours of use out of the battery in Windows 10 compared to about 3.5 hours on Fedora.

[DRanged]

They are comparing gaming laptops powered by AC. It looks like you haven't really checked the Intel findings we're discussing here.

They are also briefly going over thermals and battery life in part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x8SAAk_J4c
I did go over Intels finding and take it with a large grain of salt. Hardware Unboxed as a rerviewer is way more unbiased.