Dell XPS With Intel Tiger Lake + Ubuntu 20.04 LTS Goes On Sale - Benchmarks Coming

[skeevy420]

Am I reading that picture correctly? Is this a discount of 99 cents?

Yes you are. I even went to their site, played with their config tool, and it shows a discount of 99 cents.

Less than a 1/10 of a percent discount. I'm gonna be Daddy Warbucks with those kinds of savings.

[M@GOid]

8GB RAM is plenty for a linux machine

The OS itself and most programs out there? Sure.

But recent versions of Firefox and Chrome disagree with you...

[M@GOid]

$1250 for a quad core machine?

Man, the bastards at AMD had spoiled us...

[lowlands]

I don't Dell XPS is the right laptop for development.
Dell precision, HP zbook or ThinkPad P are the most suitable workstations for development.

I don't run VMs nor containers on my laptop so my X1 works very well. If I had to run VMs then I would prefer an X1 Extreme but Lenovo still needs to figure out that 'we' want an X1 Extreme with Ryzen. Until that happens I'll stick with my aging X1.

[lowlands]

8GB RAM is plenty for a linux machine

Until you open Slack and your RAM goes p00f and the apps that actually matter come to a stand still

[lyamc]

8GB RAM is plenty for a linux machine

[sarmad]

Am I reading that picture correctly? Is this a discount of 99 cents?

[dylanmtaylor]

"tempting, but... no thanks".

Developers, I mean, those developers that use Linux, usually want:

1. Plenty of RAM. 8GB is laughable and 16GB should be the bare minimum nowadays, because you know, developers happen to run virtual machines too.
2. Plenty of storage. 256GB is what I had in my last Dell Precision back in year 2013, pretty much for the same reason above. Dell should not even offer that for developers.
3. Reasonable display size. 1900x1200 on a 13.4" display is just useless to read lines of code.
4. The best keyboard out there and no, this crap is a decent keyboard at best: the keys need to be recognizable under the fingers without the developer needing to look at them. In other words low flat keys are the opposite of what they need. Those keys do have a little gap between each other so that's what makes this keyboard decent, but not the best for developers.
5. Probably a trackpoint to avoid moving the hand away from the best keyboard.
6. Assuming a trackpoint was present, they probably see the touchpad as useless space taken from the best keyboard, so keep it small if you absolutely wanted to shove one into that notebook
7. Physical mouse buttons, separated from the useless touchpad
8. Any Linux distro but Ubuntu, unless they are Canonical devs (ok, they can always replace it, but WTF, they've just sold a kidney at the black market to buy a new notebook and they must reinstall the OS as a first step)
9. Maybe Ryzen instead of i5/i7, or at least as an option?

I definitely agree with the RAM bit, 16GB of RAM should be standard on a dev workstation. As far as the rest, I mostly disagree. For the "Any Linux distro but Ubuntu, unless they are Canonical devs (ok, they can always replace it, but WTF, they've just sold a kidney at the black market to buy a new notebook and they must reinstall the OS as a first step)" bit, Ubuntu is still one of the most popular and well-supported operating systems, and more importantly, as an end-user, the benefit of having laptops come with Linux was NEVER the convenience (I mean yeah it's nice), but the fact it is well-supported and certified to work without issues.

[jntesteves]

"tempting, but... no thanks".

Developers, I mean, those developers that use Linux, usually want:

1. Plenty of RAM. 8GB is laughable and 16GB should be the bare minimum nowadays, because you know, developers happen to run virtual machines too.
2. Plenty of storage. 256GB is what I had in my last Dell Precision back in year 2013, pretty much for the same reason above. Dell should not even offer that for developers.
3. Reasonable display size. 1900x1200 on a 13.4" display is just useless to read lines of code.
4. The best keyboard out there and no, this crap is a decent keyboard at best: the keys need to be recognizable under the fingers without the developer needing to look at them. In other words low flat keys are the opposite of what they need. Those keys do have a little gap between each other so that's what makes this keyboard decent, but not the best for developers.
5. Probably a trackpoint to avoid moving the hand away from the best keyboard.
6. Assuming a trackpoint was present, they probably see the touchpad as useless space taken from the best keyboard, so keep it small if you absolutely wanted to shove one into that notebook
7. Physical mouse buttons, separated from the useless touchpad
8. Any Linux distro but Ubuntu, unless they are Canonical devs (ok, they can always replace it, but WTF, they've just sold a kidney at the black market to buy a new notebook and they must reinstall the OS as a first step)
9. Maybe Ryzen instead of i5/i7, or at least as an option?

The only thing I take from your list is the extra RAM for my containers. Don't need any of the rest. Of course, I wouldn't leave Ubuntu also, I develop on Fedora. But having bought computers with Windows my whole life, I really don't care what comes in it, as long as it's not Windows that should be fine.

[zcansi]

Really a shame they limit these to 16gb. The benefit of native Linux for me is that I can do serious work locally, if I'm going to be forced to run anything moderately heavy on a remote system anyway the local OS doesn't really matter to me.