Lenovo Announces 27 Systems To Ship With Ubuntu Pre-Installed

[edwaleni]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenovo

Major bummer that Lenovo is doing this because they are essentially CCP China. After their human rights abuses of their own Uigher citizens, brutal violence, rape and murder against UK colony Hong Kong, hostility toward Taiwan, violence & murder in India, and harassing and threatening the world at large I avoid supporting these clowns.

Chinese Han Supremacy & Chinese Fascism is as real as Third Reich National [NA] Socialism [ZIs].

Their censorship & propaganda has brainwashed them into thinking "Han Chinese" is a Master Race, they are told "they are the best" and people buy goods because "Other races bow to us". Fascist thinking leads to violence and genocide.

Fuck Fascist CCP China. Fuck Han Supremacists. Fuck CCP Companies.

Edit: I realize this is a strong message, but I feel as it relates to Linux & Technology that we can't afford to condone these predatory behaviors. If the CCP optimizes the world in its image I see no room for Open-Source Software or Linux. The two cannot co-exist in overlap, because one optimizes Total Control, and the other optimizes Total Freedom. It's critical and timely under these present circumstances that this by my response and I strongly appeal that you make it your response to these human rights abuses aswell.

Don't mince words, tell us what you *really* think.

[timrichardson]

I grabbed the T14 Ryzen 7 in a flash sale (yet to be shipped). So I take this as a guarantee that everything will work just fine with the upcoming Fedora.

I am not sure that the AMD version is hardware certified just yet, check the Lenovo linux forums. We have an ideapad in the house, and it was only with kernel 5.9 that everything worked at least adequately (the problems left over from 5.8 were related to the microphone, which affects the Thinkpad too). I think F33 will probably initially ship with 5.8.

[sarmad]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenovo

Major bummer that Lenovo is doing this because they are essentially CCP China. After their human rights abuses of their own Uigher citizens, brutal violence, rape and murder against UK colony Hong Kong, hostility toward Taiwan, violence & murder in India, and harassing and threatening the world at large I avoid supporting these clowns.

Chinese Han Supremacy & Chinese Fascism is as real as Third Reich National [NA] Socialism [ZIs].

Their censorship & propaganda has brainwashed them into thinking "Han Chinese" is a Master Race, they are told "they are the best" and people buy goods because "Other races bow to us". Fascist thinking leads to violence and genocide.

Fuck Fascist CCP China. Fuck Han Supremacists. Fuck CCP Companies.

Edit: I realize this is a strong message, but I feel as it relates to Linux & Technology that we can't afford to condone these predatory behaviors. If the CCP optimizes the world in its image I see no room for Open-Source Software or Linux. The two cannot co-exist in overlap, because one optimizes Total Control, and the other optimizes Total Freedom. It's critical and timely under these present circumstances that this by my response and I strongly appeal that you make it your response to these human rights abuses aswell.

If you want to judge a company by the behaviour of the government where that company is headquartered then you shouldn't be buying from Dell or System76 either. Go for a Tuxedo or a Slimbook then!

[ElectricPrism]

If you want to judge a company by the behaviour of the government where that company is headquartered then you shouldn't be buying from Dell or System76 either. Go for a Tuxedo or a Slimbook then!

Yeah I definitely am making an effort to know more about where my products come. Drawing from memory I *thought* the KDE Slimbook was a rebranded Clevo like some of the 76's which I *thought* was Chinese, but after looking them up learned they are Taiwanese.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clevo

I *thought* Dell was primarily American+Indian but I'm having trouble learning details on Manufacturing as information can get out of date.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell#Manufacturing

Thanks for the tips, in all these years I haven't heard of https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/

[Sonadow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenovo

Major bummer that Lenovo is doing this because they are essentially CCP China. After their human rights abuses of their own Uigher citizens, brutal violence, rape and murder against UK colony Hong Kong, hostility toward Taiwan, violence & murder in India, and harassing and threatening the world at large I avoid supporting these clowns.

Every last one of this bullsH!+ has been debunked by netizens living in China (both local and foreign), and their so-called sources exposed as people who have blatant anti-CPC agendas with ties to US government bodies. But of course not one Western press dares to report on this.

Locking up Uighur citizens? Those numbers are so utterly ridiculous that only idiots believe what the US politicians are spewing out of their collective asses.

Rape and murder in Hong Kong? Have you seen the unaltered clips showing those black-garbed bastards beating up pregnant women, brainwashing children into carrying knives in public so that they can score a massive PR coup when the police arrest them for possession of offensive weapons and resisting arrest? Or blatantly attempting to murder people who don't agree with their ridiculous demands?

Murder in India? Do you know that India was forced to retract statements that China abducted their soldiers after China released video evidence showing said Indian crossing the disputed LAC and getting lost?

Threatening the world at large? You seriously expect the Chinese not to take retaliatory actions after countries adopt hostile policies against them and to kowtow to Western white supremacy?

[ed31337]

Threatening the world at large? You seriously expect the Chinese not to take retaliatory actions after countries adopt hostile policies against them and to kowtow to Western white supremacy?

I think the Chinese gov't already adopted a plenty hostile retaliatory action against the world. Why did they shut down their domestic flights in/out of Wuhan during the early days of the pandemic, yet still continued to allow international flights?

China is a super power and I really hope they don't take further actions against the world. I love all the low priced gadgets you guys make, but damn... Your gov't is pretty odious, maybe even as bad as ours.

I think the reason for Lenovo starting to offer Linux distros up front is their corporate management probably sees the writing on the wall: Microsoft may eventually be prevented from doing business with any PRC corporation, meaning no more Windows.

This is a very insightful observation that seems worth repeating. Who knew Trump's trade policies would result in Linux gaining a foothold in the OEM laptop market? Did Trump intend for that to happen, or was it just a lucky result?

[Sonadow]

I think the Chinese gov't already adopted a plenty hostile retaliatory action against the world. Why did they shut down their domestic flights in/out of Wuhan during the early days of the pandemic, yet still continued to allow international flights?

China is a super power and I really hope they don't take further actions against the world. I love all the low priced gadgets you guys make, but damn... Your gov't is pretty odious, maybe even as bad as ours.

I obviously can't speak for them but I am quite certain they won't. China has already said it since the days of Deng Xiaoping and even with Xi Jinping: they are not interested in hegemony or imperialism. All they want are trade partnerships, market access and non-interference with their domestic affairs or bilateral disputes.

Heck, they are not even interested in spreading their socialist ideology because they know that every country needs to find its own approach to governance. Which makes the Trump administration's decision to classify the Confucius Institutes as political institutes really ridiculous.

This is a very insightful observation that seems worth repeating. Who knew Trump's policies would result in Linux gaining a foothold in the OEM laptop market? Did Trump intend for that to happen, or was it just a lucky result?

I would say it's more of a lucky result. Trump wanted a decoupling, and the Chinese are going to give it to him in their own terms. China was very content with limiting the use of Linux to only certain government branches while the rest used a secure version of Windows customized by Microsoft themselves.

[klapaucius]

I am not sure that the AMD version is hardware certified just yet, check the Lenovo linux forums. We have an ideapad in the house, and it was only with kernel 5.9 that everything worked at least adequately (the problems left over from 5.8 were related to the microphone, which affects the Thinkpad too). I think F33 will probably initially ship with 5.8.

According to this page, on the T14s almost everything already works fine, except for the fingerprint reader (which is not a necessity anyway, for me) and the "modem" (I guess it's the WWAN card). I couldn't see any particular difference between T14 and T14s. I am happy to compile a 5.9 if necessary, it won't be the first time that I customise my own kernel.

And this guy managed to install ArchLinux on T14s. I also used to be an Archlinux user, but now I have no appetite for this kind of installation "experience" anymore.

[Sesivany]

As I said, it would simply be nice to have the choice of Ubuntu or Fedora on ALL the laptops they're putting Linux on.

That could still be the case. Note that the news came from Canonical. Of course, they will not mention Fedora in the news. But it may still mean that they will sell those laptops with Fedora, too.

[Vistaus]

Dell's footsteps.

Actually, the other way around as I could buy Lenovo laptops with Red Hat a couple of years ago in Media Markt stores here in the Netherlands.