Lenovo Announces 27 Systems To Ship With Ubuntu Pre-Installed

[qarium]

What's more disqualifying, the fact that someone actually thinks that the lives of Black people have value (I know, shocking, right), that someone risibly conflates this with "Marxism" and "extremism," or that said someone also can't spell for shit?
Yeah, yeah, dyslexia. Dyslexia schmyslexia. Dyslexia does not cause bigotry. Ignorance and stupidity do.

yes "Black people have value" but only in the meaning of: all lifes matters

but they do not call out for: all lifes matters. they claim black lifes matters in the meaning that any other skin color DOES NOT MATTER. if they say otherwise they would say: all lifes matters but they don't do this.

now the question is BLM a Marxist ideology ? according to many BLM members yes they are trained Marxists. https://youtu.be/1noLh25FbKI

BLM Founders claim they are trained marxists.

[qarium]

exactly, no room for debian reskins, which can't introduce pulseaudio without world-wide breakage

yes and more much more... the leader of Debian is a "Black life matters" Marxist extremist.

because of security reasons (Trojan horse from GRU Russian military intelligence) i switched from Debian 11 to Fedora 32 on my main system.

Debian with a "Black life matters" Marxist leader is a complete disqualification.

[qarium]

Jeff Joshua Rollin This is OEM. There’s no room for experimental distributions or experimental desktops.

i run Fedora32 on my systems and it is really good. why should a good experience like this be a experimental desktop ?

[Sonadow]

That could still be the case. Note that the news came from Canonical. Of course, they will not mention Fedora in the news. But it may still mean that they will sell those laptops with Fedora, too.

Whether or not Lenovo bundles Fedora with its laptops is really irrelevant imo.

If the laptops or systems are bundled with Ubuntu, that essentially means that the hardware will work on Ubuntu and its older kernels. Which in turntturn means there is almost a near certainty that the same hardware will function on Fedora with its use of up-to-date kernels.

And in truth, a pre-installed image of Linux is not my cup of tea: the default install options, package selection and partitioning layout suggested by most distributions have never been satisfactory to me. If I bought such a laptop with a pre-installed distribution, the first thing I would do is to overwrite it with an installation done to my preferences. Which completely defeats the purpose of having a pre-installed Linux copy.

The only benefit such a machine would offer is the assurance that all the hardware will work on most, if not all, distributions.

[Vistaus]

Dell's footsteps.

Actually, the other way around as I could buy Lenovo laptops with Red Hat a couple of years ago in Media Markt stores here in the Netherlands.

[Sesivany]

As I said, it would simply be nice to have the choice of Ubuntu or Fedora on ALL the laptops they're putting Linux on.

That could still be the case. Note that the news came from Canonical. Of course, they will not mention Fedora in the news. But it may still mean that they will sell those laptops with Fedora, too.

[klapaucius]

I am not sure that the AMD version is hardware certified just yet, check the Lenovo linux forums. We have an ideapad in the house, and it was only with kernel 5.9 that everything worked at least adequately (the problems left over from 5.8 were related to the microphone, which affects the Thinkpad too). I think F33 will probably initially ship with 5.8.

According to this page, on the T14s almost everything already works fine, except for the fingerprint reader (which is not a necessity anyway, for me) and the "modem" (I guess it's the WWAN card). I couldn't see any particular difference between T14 and T14s. I am happy to compile a 5.9 if necessary, it won't be the first time that I customise my own kernel.

And this guy managed to install ArchLinux on T14s. I also used to be an Archlinux user, but now I have no appetite for this kind of installation "experience" anymore.

[Sonadow]

I think the Chinese gov't already adopted a plenty hostile retaliatory action against the world. Why did they shut down their domestic flights in/out of Wuhan during the early days of the pandemic, yet still continued to allow international flights?

China is a super power and I really hope they don't take further actions against the world. I love all the low priced gadgets you guys make, but damn... Your gov't is pretty odious, maybe even as bad as ours.

I obviously can't speak for them but I am quite certain they won't. China has already said it since the days of Deng Xiaoping and even with Xi Jinping: they are not interested in hegemony or imperialism. All they want are trade partnerships, market access and non-interference with their domestic affairs or bilateral disputes.

Heck, they are not even interested in spreading their socialist ideology because they know that every country needs to find its own approach to governance. Which makes the Trump administration's decision to classify the Confucius Institutes as political institutes really ridiculous.

This is a very insightful observation that seems worth repeating. Who knew Trump's policies would result in Linux gaining a foothold in the OEM laptop market? Did Trump intend for that to happen, or was it just a lucky result?

I would say it's more of a lucky result. Trump wanted a decoupling, and the Chinese are going to give it to him in their own terms. China was very content with limiting the use of Linux to only certain government branches while the rest used a secure version of Windows customized by Microsoft themselves.

[ed31337]

Threatening the world at large? You seriously expect the Chinese not to take retaliatory actions after countries adopt hostile policies against them and to kowtow to Western white supremacy?

I think the Chinese gov't already adopted a plenty hostile retaliatory action against the world. Why did they shut down their domestic flights in/out of Wuhan during the early days of the pandemic, yet still continued to allow international flights?

China is a super power and I really hope they don't take further actions against the world. I love all the low priced gadgets you guys make, but damn... Your gov't is pretty odious, maybe even as bad as ours.

I think the reason for Lenovo starting to offer Linux distros up front is their corporate management probably sees the writing on the wall: Microsoft may eventually be prevented from doing business with any PRC corporation, meaning no more Windows.

This is a very insightful observation that seems worth repeating. Who knew Trump's trade policies would result in Linux gaining a foothold in the OEM laptop market? Did Trump intend for that to happen, or was it just a lucky result?

[Sonadow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenovo

Major bummer that Lenovo is doing this because they are essentially CCP China. After their human rights abuses of their own Uigher citizens, brutal violence, rape and murder against UK colony Hong Kong, hostility toward Taiwan, violence & murder in India, and harassing and threatening the world at large I avoid supporting these clowns.

Every last one of this bullsH!+ has been debunked by netizens living in China (both local and foreign), and their so-called sources exposed as people who have blatant anti-CPC agendas with ties to US government bodies. But of course not one Western press dares to report on this.

Locking up Uighur citizens? Those numbers are so utterly ridiculous that only idiots believe what the US politicians are spewing out of their collective asses.

Rape and murder in Hong Kong? Have you seen the unaltered clips showing those black-garbed bastards beating up pregnant women, brainwashing children into carrying knives in public so that they can score a massive PR coup when the police arrest them for possession of offensive weapons and resisting arrest? Or blatantly attempting to murder people who don't agree with their ridiculous demands?

Murder in India? Do you know that India was forced to retract statements that China abducted their soldiers after China released video evidence showing said Indian crossing the disputed LAC and getting lost?

Threatening the world at large? You seriously expect the Chinese not to take retaliatory actions after countries adopt hostile policies against them and to kowtow to Western white supremacy?