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  • Almindor
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    Originally posted by wizard69 View Post
    Jolla kinda makes you wish that somebody with more money than they can possibly use would buy the outfit. It is pretty obvious that the concept could go farther than it has with good management and a larger technical team. That requires somebody that can throw money at it and not expect a return for 5 years.

    I actually had high hopes for Jolla in the tablet space as that is where they really have the potential t compete. The only real challenger in tablet space is Apple and as a result a far more open tablet OS has a fighting chance. Android simply isn't the answer in the world of Tablets where you really want a more open platform.
    It'd help if they followed up on their false promises and finally open sourced the damn thing. I know I know a lot of it IS open, but a lot isn't. There are many very good programmers in the Jolla community (or there were) but a lot of them refuse to invest too much into fixing things for free for someone who is consistently lying about everything (that includes me).

    I've used a SailfishOS phone as my daily driver since Jolla 1 (pre-order) and generally I'm "ok" with it and how it went. But the fact that they lied, failed multiple times on various projects, got bought by Russians or who knows who and are still years behind on libs/tools updates make it a monumental "missed my own boat" failure.

    The only good decision this company ever made was to stop trying to make their own hardware, everything else was a flop.

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  • edwaleni
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    Originally posted by wizard69 View Post
    Jolla kinda makes you wish that somebody with more money than they can possibly use would buy the outfit. It is pretty obvious that the concept could go farther than it has with good management and a larger technical team. That requires somebody that can throw money at it and not expect a return for 5 years.

    I actually had high hopes for Jolla in the tablet space as that is where they really have the potential t compete. The only real challenger in tablet space is Apple and as a result a far more open tablet OS has a fighting chance. Android simply isn't the answer in the world of Tablets where you really want a more open platform.
    I believe overall iPad sales are declining as are most tablets. As each generation of phones get larger screens it cuts into recurring tablet sales.

    There is some large corporate use of iPads for POS, (like ChikFilA uses them for drive throughs) but as a general purpose tablet it is losing share. Specialists still buy them because they have a very narrow use case (like for live music or for recording and mix). The shift from overall consumer use to corporate use has been masking the reduction of sales at the retail level.

    Custom ROM's for android tabs are now a pretty slim market. Most are stuck at tabs from 4 or 5 years ago. Many of the devs are saying there is just no demand for it.

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  • wizard69
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    Jolla kinda makes you wish that somebody with more money than they can possibly use would buy the outfit. It is pretty obvious that the concept could go farther than it has with good management and a larger technical team. That requires somebody that can throw money at it and not expect a return for 5 years.

    I actually had high hopes for Jolla in the tablet space as that is where they really have the potential t compete. The only real challenger in tablet space is Apple and as a result a far more open tablet OS has a fighting chance. Android simply isn't the answer in the world of Tablets where you really want a more open platform.

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  • L_A_G
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    Originally posted by Vistaus View Post
    An not just technical debt: me and quite a few others are still waiting on their promised tablet refund...
    Considering it's taken this long I wouldn't count on ever getting it.

    Oh and before you call it a scam there's a big difference between an actual scam, which requires intention, and the downright cursed development tail-end for the tablet. First the intended display panel went out of production necessitating some major re-engineering as nothing that would serve as a drop-in replacement was available. After that Chinese new year took place just as it was going into production and all the factories shut down as the migrant workers left for their home towns. While they were out a funding round got delayed so when the workers returned back to work Jolla couldn't pay the assemblers, who preceded to take a large number of the devices, install Android on them, and then sell them before Jolla could get the money together to pay them.

    The really big issue with the assemblers taking their devices as payment was that during the development Intel had left the mobile SoC market so the main SoC was no longer available as they went into production. What Jolla had as they went into production was all they were ever going to be able to get. Completely re-engineering the board as an ARM-based device wasn't an option either as the tablet was mostly a bought-in design from another Finnish company called Aava Mobile as they stopped designing devices in-house.

    As for why they haven't fully refunded everyone yet, it's simply that they just don't have the money to do it. But they are refunding people as they have money available for it.
    Last edited by L_A_G; 29 April 2020, 03:42 PM.

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  • Redfoxmoon
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    Originally posted by Shtirlic View Post

    "Russian Rostelecom, one of the largest government-owned companies, recently acquired 75% of the open mobile platform on which the Jolla’s Sailfish OS was developed. They announced that the Sailfish Mobile OS RUS will be further developed and rebranded as Aurora OS. "
    https://nokiamob.net/2019/02/09/sail...-os-in-russia/
    At least it's not owned by google. :^) I still very much like my xperia sailfish phone. :^)

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  • Vistaus
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    Originally posted by L_A_G View Post
    Reading that it sounds an awful lot like they've still got plenty of technical debt to take care of with in future updates and try to remember that the last update was also one of those technical debt repayment updates.
    An not just technical debt: me and quite a few others are still waiting on their promised tablet refund...

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  • Shtirlic
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    Originally posted by make_adobe_on_Linux! View Post

    Sami Pienimäki? Thoughts? Ideally a few more devs would join GrapheneOS and expand its hardware support to a couple more devices.
    "Russian Rostelecom, one of the largest government-owned companies, recently acquired 75% of the open mobile platform on which the Jolla’s Sailfish OS was developed. They announced that the Sailfish Mobile OS RUS will be further developed and rebranded as Aurora OS. "
    https://nokiamob.net/2019/02/09/sail...-os-in-russia/

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  • deusexmachina
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    Originally posted by Shtirlic View Post

    Good question, research some info about SailfishOS and Jolla current ownership.
    Sami Pienimäki? Thoughts? Ideally a few more devs would join GrapheneOS and expand its hardware support to a couple more devices.

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  • L_A_G
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    Reading that it sounds an awful lot like they've still got plenty of technical debt to take care of with in future updates and try to remember that the last update was also one of those technical debt repayment updates.

    Updated my Xperia 10 while I wrote this post (had to re-write it as the update finished mid writing) and it seems to have fixed my main gripe, the fingerprint sensor going out. I really loved how smoothly I could wake the screen and unlock it with one single motion and now I can do that again. The UI is probably the best thought out one in the space, particularly when it comes to single handed use, which most other major makers seem to have almost ignored. Only other mobile OS that has even come close in that regard is the textbook lesson in "Too little, too late" that was Windows Phone 7/8/10 (still kind of miffed about how they promised they'd update the Lumia 920 to WP10 and quietly rescinded that mid beta).

    Maybe I'm old fashioned in how I insist on using my smartphones one handed, only using two hands when taking a photo or video, but just been how I use my smartphones ever since my first one, the Nokia 3650 (yes, the one with the funky circular keypad).
    Last edited by L_A_G; 29 April 2020, 03:44 PM.

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  • edwaleni
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    I dropped a suggestion to Motorola that they should look at offering Sailfish as an install option on a "blank" phone. (Phone turns on with a choice of phone OS) Also provide a recovery icon on Sailfish in case the user wants to try something else or go back.

    They said they would take it back, no one had suggested it before. No support was possible (only Android) they said, but they thought the idea was compelling. Not sure if it will take.

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