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Originally posted by bash2bash View Post
To be honest, no sane person who values his privacy is going to leave a preinstalled os intact. The first thing you do, is remove everything entirely and install from your own safe image. Lets not forget how terribly insecure as those vendor apps they preinstall and act as a great spyware... In other words, its really inconsequential/irrelevant what comes preinstalled.
This is a fairly big thing and I am surprised Lenovo hasn't offered this with Thinkpads years earlier.
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Originally posted by ChristianSchaller View Post
This is just nonsense. IBM was not involved here at all. Also the OS version installed is a standard Fedora install, there is zero extra software being added here by Lenovo or anyone else. In fact Lenovo worked with us to get all bugfixes and improvements needed for these laptops upstream into the upstream kernel, GNOME and so on.
Fedora really ought to ship with tuned and have some level of intergration with GNOME if its going to do thisLast edited by Britoid; 24 April 2020, 11:27 AM.
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Originally posted by bash2bash View PostTo be honest, no sane person who values his privacy is going to leave a preinstalled os intact. The first thing you do, is remove everything entirely and install from your own safe image. Lets not forget how terribly insecure as those vendor apps they preinstall and act as a great spyware... In other words, its really inconsequential/irrelevant what comes preinstalled.
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Originally posted by 144Hz View PostChristianSchaller Upstreams like GNOME recently extended their period of stable release with 3-4 extra months. Is this part of Fedora meeting expectations from Lenovo etc?
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If that lower the price for a fair amount, great.
Another thing Lenovo might think about is selling barebones version.
They are raping their customers with their options.
There is only so much one is prepared to go for nice keyboard.
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Originally posted by ChristianSchaller View Post
Be aware that this is quite different from the Red Hat certification they and other HW makers have been doing. That has been for major corporate accounts only, while this is something a consumer can order themselves from Lenovos website and which Lenovo has established an engineering team to support themselves.Last edited by Vistaus; 24 April 2020, 12:04 PM.
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Originally posted by bash2bash View PostTo be honest, no sane person who values his privacy is going to leave a preinstalled os intact. The first thing you do, is remove everything entirely and install from your own safe image. Lets not forget how terribly insecure as those vendor apps they preinstall and act as a great spyware... In other words, its really inconsequential/irrelevant what comes preinstalled.
Not to mention avoiding the Microsoft tax. I don't like being forced to pay for something I have no intention of ever using. Do you?
Lastly, having Linux as a preinstalled option typically also means that BIOS and firmware updates will be installable under Linux. I've run into more than a few different computers over the years, where the vendor ONLY provides a Windows .exe file for updating the firmware. With the rise of SSD's, this is even more important, as most SSD products see numerous FW updates over their life. For example, Kingston provides only a Windows app for SSD firmware, while intel has their full SSD toolbox on Linux. These are the kinds of things a Linux user must take into consideration when buying a new machine.
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Originally posted by torsionbar28 View PostAll true, but that's not the point. Having Linux as a preinstalled option demonstrates to a potential buyer that the hardware will all work under Linux. This is especially important in the laptop world, where Linux support is a little more hit-or-miss particularly on brand new hardware.
Not to mention avoiding the Microsoft tax. I don't like being forced to pay for something I have no intention of ever using. Do you?
Lastly, having Linux as a preinstalled option typically also means that BIOS and firmware updates will be installable under Linux. I've run into more than a few different computers over the years, where the vendor ONLY provides a Windows .exe file for updating the firmware. With the rise of SSD's, this is even more important, as most SSD products see numerous FW updates over their life. For example, Kingston provides only a Windows app for SSD firmware, while intel has their full SSD toolbox on Linux. These are the kinds of things a Linux user must take into consideration when buying a new machine.
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