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  • Black_Fox
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    Originally posted by danmcgrew View Post

    Perhaps the answer to this room-temperature-IQ "expert" is to be found in the last paragraph of the following:
    Wow... except for the direct quotes from the Pine guys, that was a harsh post. Anyway, thanks for the explanation, it helped. I'm in the same boat with Luke - I hope that both the devices do succeed. With ShiftPhone and FairPhone bringing more hardware modularity and Librem5 and PinePhone bringing more software modularity, there's something to look forward to in the future.

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  • tuxd3v
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    Originally posted by dos1 View Post
    Enlightenment has already been a base for Om2008 and SHR distributions.

    As one of SHR developers back then, I can say that it was pretty light indeed, but a bit of PITA to work with, as it was a constantly moving target.
    You can go Tizen, as it has a lot more apps, and drivers for mobile..
    Due to that, I think that Tizen OS, is a better alternative than a gnome phone.. ( due to the effort done with Enlightenment on its Intel Linux core by Samsung.. ).

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  • danmcgrew
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    Originally posted by Black_Fox View Post

    Can you elaborate why PinePhone guys sound like hobbyists? I don't follow either of the projects too deeply, but they seemed to be simply more open and detailed with their issues, which to me actually makes a more professional impression.
    Perhaps the answer is to be found in the last paragraph of the following:
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    From Pine64‘s "October Update: PineTime, Delays and Shipping News" ( https://www.pine64.com )

    "[EDIT 18/10/2019] Since writing this blog entry I provided an update on the situation (Pinebook Pro, PinePhone and PineTime [the 'PineTime' is Pine's $20.00 'SmartWatch'] dev kits shipping) on the forum. Click here."

    ["Clicking here" gets you to...]



    ...and here is ONE of Pine64's answer to a commenter, regarding 'open-ness', and the Librem device--

    "Hey,
    About being open: I see no other way for PINE64. In a sense this is more of a typical open-source project than a 'company', and most of it is community ran. To this end, there is no traditional divide between the device vendor and the community. You want to write for the blog or even edit the front page? - ping me. Want to edit the wiki - you can do so already ... any part or it too, just use the forum creds. Want to see something in the next products we announce? - you can talk to me and TL [the founder of Pine] any day of the week (pretty much) in the chats. Doesn't take much to convince us to do X or Y if its sound. The PinePhone is a prime example of this - it was built from the ground up with devs and community input. "

    "As for the Librem5: Looks like they have a very interesting device on their hands. I wholeheartedly hope they'll succeed in achieving their goals with - the more Linux phones on the market the better for everyone. There is place for both devices ... and many more to come I hope."


    Last edited by tildearrow; 25 October 2019, 12:17 PM. Reason: this is annoying

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  • intelfx
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    Well, here's to hoping they can pull through in one way or another. All the recent bad publicity (with CTO leaving and stuff) isn't exactly helping, too.

    Note, I don't give a damn about Purism as a company, maybe they're actually as bad as they're being painted. The vanilla GNU/Linux phone is what I care for.

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  • dos1
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    Enlightenment has already been a base for Om2008 and SHR distributions.

    As one of SHR developers back then, I can say that it was pretty light indeed, but a bit of PITA to work with, as it was a constantly moving target.

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  • tuxd3v
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    Originally posted by Raka555 View Post
    The gnome stack is not exactly easy on the CPU either and keeping it busy with bloat == heat ...
    You right..
    When you start to notice GObject libraries and its dependencies..
    And you will realise the amount of CPU/memory resources that will be needed to go GTK..

    Enlightenment seems to be the right choice here( that no one picks.. also because it has no real applications for it.. ).
    If Linux want to be the best in mobile space, I think Enlightenment, is the way to go..

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  • Toggleton
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    Originally posted by Djhg2000 View Post

    That is very odd. I very clearly remember how this wasn't the plan, I asked them last spring and at that time they said it would be replaceable as in you can open up the phone, disconnect the battery cable and put in a new one. Seems like they changed their mind since then.

    I guess I stand corrected. Thanks for providing a good source as well.
    I guess it was the plan to have at least "User replaceable with tools" so not glued into the case. AFAIK was it not clear until that video. Maybe they had different Case designs and if the Design with the back plate would not work that well they had switched to the fallback design with Battery replaceable only with tools

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  • Djhg2000
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    Originally posted by Toggleton View Post

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74dhBddET2E it is just that way no tools needed (I don't think it will change it in a later Batch)
    That is very odd. I very clearly remember how this wasn't the plan, I asked them last spring and at that time they said it would be replaceable as in you can open up the phone, disconnect the battery cable and put in a new one. Seems like they changed their mind since then.

    I guess I stand corrected. Thanks for providing a good source as well.

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  • Toggleton
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    Originally posted by Djhg2000 View Post

    Yes, with basic tools. That's not the same as simply popping off the rear cover with your fingers and pulling out the battery.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74dhBddET2E it is just that way no tools needed (I don't think it will change it in a later Batch)

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  • Djhg2000
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    Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
    Djhg2000 The battery can be replaced.
    Yes, with basic tools. That's not the same as simply popping off the rear cover with your fingers and pulling out the battery.

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