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  • danmcgrew
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    Originally posted by eltomito View Post
    Is there anybody who got one of these on this forum? Could you post some detailed pics or a video, please? I'm dying to see this legendary beast!
    Type "ubuntu edge" into your web browser.

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  • ldesnogu
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    Originally posted by sandy8925 View Post
    Instead, they chose the strange popular obsession with ARM devices, which resulted in a lot of problems.
    Yes the whole industry has gone mad. You should tell them they are choosing the wrong products, you know so much better.

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  • eltomito
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    Is there anybody who got one of these on this forum? Could you post some detailed pics or a video, please? I'm dying to see this legendary beast!

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  • sandy8925
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    Originally posted by mzs.112000 View Post


    I would like to point out that Ubuntu phone could have worked out much better, it's largely the failed efforts to get Unity 8 fully working on both desktop and mobile that sunk the project by sucking up too much resources. Had they focused on getting it 100% feature-complete before working on the mobile port, it would have gone far better, and Ubuntu might still be using Unity to this day, on both mobile and desktop.
    Yes, and the main problem was closed source GPU drivers. Unity relied on Mir, Xorg support which third party closed source drivers don't have. Getting them to work on such features requires a good bit of clout. Unfortunately Intel pulled out of smartphone CPUs so that wasn't an option.

    However, Intel was definitely an option for the Ubuntu tablets, and they should've gone with Intel/AMD CPU and iGPU. Same for that KDE tablet. Intel already had a high quality fully functioning driver, and AMD had a decently functioning driver, both of which supported Xorg, Wayland and could be changed to support Mir. Instead of having to struggle and fight with closed source drivers, they would've been able to focus on Unity, basic apps and other important areas. Instead, they chose the strange popular obsession with ARM devices, which resulted in a lot of problems.

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  • mzs.112000
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    Originally posted by sandy8925 View Post

    Well the problem with Ubuntu phone is that it relied on closed source drivers, and given iOS and Android had saturated the market. Librem 5 focuses on a niche, and satisfies the requirements for that niche. They've made serious efforts in that regard.

    I would like to point out that Ubuntu phone could have worked out much better, it's largely the failed efforts to get Unity 8 fully working on both desktop and mobile that sunk the project by sucking up too much resources. Had they focused on getting it 100% feature-complete before working on the mobile port, it would have gone far better, and Ubuntu might still be using Unity to this day, on both mobile and desktop.

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  • sandy8925
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    Originally posted by tweak42 View Post

    I wouldn't call their phones faulty, just incomplete and beta quality. It is the hardware equivalent of shipping open source software before it's polished and debugged. Early adopters will take the brunt of the cost finding problems, but the openness and transparency (warts and all) is intended to payback in the long run.

    Wither Purism can reap the payback or someone else does if they fail remains to be seen. We all saw the data point on how Canonical's Ubuntu phone went over, live and learn.
    Well the problem with Ubuntu phone is that it relied on closed source drivers, and given iOS and Android had saturated the market. Librem 5 focuses on a niche, and satisfies the requirements for that niche. They've made serious efforts in that regard.

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  • ElectricPrism
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    YOU ARE NOT AUTHORIZED TO UPDATE THIS POST (-___-*)

    (Edit: Hey Michael, editing my comment to include another reply triggered the spam filter. Can people with above X posts just be whitelisted or something be done -- I absolute abhore vBulletin but everyone has to pick their poison system wise)

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  • ElectricPrism
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    Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
    You know I could be happy about this, but they should have delayed this batch a little more. We'd prefer to wait than to receive faulty products.
    Who is we? Did you buy one? If so why not simply email them and ask that your order by fulfilled in a different batch, I'm sure they have plenty of other people who would like to go first. Problem solved.

    Originally posted by tweak42 View Post
    Early adopters will take the brunt of the cost finding problems, but the openness and transparency (warts and all) is intended to payback in the long run.
    Agreed, when you buy the 1st generation of a technology, the reality is there are kinks that need time and love to work out that usually get fixed in gen 2.

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  • wizard69
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    Delayed no! Because my honest about developer quality hardware yes. I see nothing wrong with the roughness of this release as long as customers understand what they are getting. At 15 mm thick I do have to laugh a bit.

    Originally posted by davykrocket View Post
    I could have chosen to be in the first batches, but I went with the last since I paid for a finished phone. There was no mention when I backed the phone 2 years ago that they would send out an unfinished product. I assumed there would be delays due to the size of this undertaking, but they should have just delayed another six months.

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  • Caliga
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    Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
    You know I could be happy about this, but they should have delayed this batch a little more. We'd prefer to wait than to receive faulty products.
    Pardon me? Why should they be faulty?
    You have a 30 day money back guarantee. And warranty of course.

    Purism has long ago clarified that "lose fit" means "not 100% airtight yet", but doesn't mean shabby.
    (sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So_rCYArL3s&t=515 and https://social.librem.one/@lunduke/102742368716724323)
    I assume they wanted to be on the safe side and don't want to have especially picky people in the first batch.

    Originally posted by Michael View Post
    Also very curious how the software stack and battery life are....
    See the recent video of HackersGame: Ready for Launch?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tuLkga0dmY

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