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  • #11
    Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
    brent Purism is a social purpose company. And you hate them for doing what NO ONE ELSE have done before.
    I don't hate them, but they are quite frankly doing a bad job. They've been overpromising and underdelivering from the very start of the Librem 5 project. The marketing is dishonest ("shipping adjustments", this paper launch, etc.) and they have very little else to show. Apart from a few tinkerer nerds, most people that preordered actually expect a working phone. And they won't get it, at least not any time soon. This will unfortunately all get back to Purism and it will be hard for them to recover.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by brent View Post
      WTF? So you paid 600 USD and what you'll likely get is a shoddily made prototype. Are you serious, Purism? This is ridiculous.
      Exactly. We should give them a little more time to ensure the build quality will be consistent and the model final.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
        brent Nobody cares about your 600 USD. Freedom and Privacy is paid with effort and principles.
        You must be naive if you think that this company truly cares about privacy, instead of robbing you blind selling you buggy, insecure and very far from privacy protecting snake oil.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
          brent Purism is a social purpose company. And you hate them for doing what NO ONE ELSE have done before.

          You are the choosing beggar+600USD.
          Purisms target audience are gullible autists who will gobble up any supposed ""privacy"" snake oil.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by brent View Post

            I don't hate them, but they are quite frankly doing a bad job. They've been overpromising and underdelivering from the very start of the Librem 5 project. The marketing is dishonest ("shipping adjustments", this paper launch, etc.) and they have very little else to show. Apart from a few tinkerer nerds, most people that preordered actually expect a working phone. And they won't get it, at least not any time soon. This will unfortunately all get back to Purism and it will be hard for them to recover.
            "Dishonest" may be overstating the case. But Purism's announcement feels like a student trying to talk their way out of an Incomplete on a project, rather than a professional response to the difficulties it's found itself in with this product.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
              brent Nobody cares about your 600 USD. Freedom and Privacy is paid with effort and principles.
              You are absolutely wrong. HE cares!

              And, for your information, 'Freedom' and 'Privacy' is also paid for with a $160.00 payment to the Pine Group, for the PinePhone.

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              • #17
                Lol , such a meme. If you want to throw your money to thrash , buy this phone.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by 144Hz View Post
                  brent You see dishonesty. I see transparency.

                  The phone or software is not even the product. They try to distribute Freedom and Privacy.
                  Sorry, but are you deluded somehow? They've been keeping everyone in the dark about progress with hardware development for a long time. Even now, they provide very little details. How is that transparency?

                  Gladly, there's another company that *actually* not only preaches transparency, but also practices it - Pine.

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                  • #19
                    Take your time purism. I can wait.

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                    • #20
                      The Pine phone and the Librem5 both have the same problem: Not enough RAM. I had a Motorola Atrix phone back in 2011/2012. 1gb of ram was pathetic on a phone back then. Just as 2-3gb is pathetic now. These open source phones really need to lift the amount of RAM to 4-6GB. Especially if people want to use them as a laptop replacement. The killer app for a modern Linux phone should be to plug it into a screen/keyboard/mouse and be able to use it for programming/network engineering replacing a laptop. The problem is none of these phones have enough RAM to do that. Storage is no longer an issue. 400-500GB SDCards are cheap. The lack of RAM is a real problem. The other main use of these phones is adblock on internet connections.

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