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  • Fairphone 3 Pre-Orders Begin For Ethical Smartphone With Better Specs Than The Librem 5

    Phoronix: Fairphone 3 Pre-Orders Begin For Ethical Smartphone With Better Specs Than The Librem 5

    The Fairphone 3 made its formal announcement this week with pre-orders beginning and plans to begin shipping in mid-October. The Fairphone 3 is the latest iteration for this phone design that is focused on social values / ethical manufacturing, the longevity of the phone, and modular replacement parts...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...e-3-Pre-Launch

  • GaryTheGravelGuy
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    Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post
    I believe that you are saying that FP3 uses the already developed drivers for Android,
    And so, to have hardware support in Sailfish OS, or other, they need to created drivers for that OS..
    Because having the OS running in the Hardware processor,
    But without the possibility to use a lot of the hardware in the phone, is a very limited thing for a final user.
    No. you don't need special drivers for SFOS. That's what libhybris is for.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybris_(software)

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  • M@yeulC
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    Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
    I don't want more pixels. That reduces the sensor cell size, which means they are more prone to noise.

    What I want is a high-aperture large sensor, as these deliver the highest sensitivity to light and hence much less noise.
    I don't think large sensors are the best way to go. They need large optics (expensive) and large chips (very expensive). Instead, the virtual aperture route (with multiple sensors and optics) seems quite a bit smarter, essentially doing the same as AMD with its chiplets.
    Well, of course, unless your chip design is smart enough to compensate for defects... like this huge chip they introduced recently. That's an option as well. But I think optics suffer the same yield issue (you can likely correct this in software, though).

    ----
    Edit: and forgot to post my main point:
    Are the modules backwards/forward-compatible with FP2? That would be the ethical thing to do!

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  • tuxd3v
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    Originally posted by pal666 View Post
    someone has to develop alternative os, port it to hardware of your phone and develop apps for it. i don't think they developed android, so they can't develop alternative os. but you can ask alternative os vendor to provide build for fairphone
    It would be nice, if SailishOS could have support for it( maybe FP3 teaming up with SailfishOS team..)

    I believe that you are saying that FP3 uses the already developed drivers for Android,
    And so, to have hardware support in Sailfish OS, or other, they need to created drivers for that OS..
    Because having the OS running in the Hardware processor,
    But without the possibility to use a lot of the hardware in the phone, is a very limited thing for a final user.

    It could work, tough, for someone that is developing for that OS + hardware.

    Any way,
    FP3 seems that doesn't have FM Radio( or is not advertised ..? ), which is a deal breaker for me..

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  • tuxd3v
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    Originally posted by Girolamo_Cavazzoni View Post
    Yes, it has. Owner of FP2 (LineageOS without Google) here.
    I was looking into the specs,
    And I don't see there FM Radio, for the FP3..

    It could be that they forget to advertise it..

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  • GaryTheGravelGuy
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    If I have to put up with hybris to get a decent distro running with all the important often-problematic hardware working (gpu, radios, and whatnot) (i prefer GPS and camera to _not_ have working drivers, but if they're there, I won't complain) , that's a no-go.

    Hey, I like the concept of Halium (and I've messed with it quite a bit), but porting is painful. It's a useful kludge for garbage hardware, but I don't want garbage in the first place.

    I'm staying with my old nexus 4 (because hybris already works) until someone can sell me a phone that isn't trash. Looks like Pinephone's going to win the race. I don't like the mali GPU, but IIRC, the free software drivers aren't _terrible_ anymore.

    I miss my n900.

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  • tildearrow
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    Originally posted by theriddick View Post

    So your saying majority of the cost is in the software included. Ok.,.
    Hardware.

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  • LaeMing
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    Originally posted by DMJC View Post
    Librem 5 isn't about the performance, it's about the control of the phone by the user. Actual Adblock on a phone is worth giving up some ram/storage. The mobile web experience on the Librem will completely cream the other phones. Hell Youtube adblock is a killer app.
    Actual addblock on a phone could well make it a lot more performant than it might otherwise be at that spec. level anyway. Just how much of our compute resources are sucked away by spinning doodads and other such crap in our phones/browsers these days anyway?

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  • theriddick
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    Originally posted by tildearrow View Post

    They have not ripped us off. The extra cost isn't "inflated". It's the privacy bits which aren't present in other phones, plus the reduced size of the batch.
    So your saying majority of the cost is in the software included. Ok.,.

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  • danmcgrew
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    You want transparency and honesty in the development of a $160 secure Linux phone?
    Try these on for size...

    Ameridroid--
    Upcoming Product: More PinePhone Details from TL Lim

    https://ameridroid.com/blogs/ameribl...ls-from-tl-lim
    *******************************************
    and, from UBPorts...

    UBPorts Forum--
    PinePhone
    https://forums.ubports.com/topic/2403/pinephone

    (read to the very end)
    *******************************************

    PinePhone Wiki

    https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PinePhone
    Last edited by danmcgrew; 09-01-2019, 08:57 AM.

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