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  • theriddick
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    Librem should have just offered mobile software rather then ripping people off with crap hardware at inflated costs.
    I would be totally fine paying them $50 for the mobile software that works on any phone.
    This whole concept that Librem is magic hardware that protects users.. lol

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  • Serafean
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    These are all different beasts:
    - Random android handset: gimme your $$, at least once every 2 years. Device controlled by manufacturer + google. Privacy and repairability nowhere to be seen.
    - Librem 5: your device, your rules. Privacy 1st class citizen. Repairablility 2nd class citizen. Hardware limited by availability of GPL drivers.

    - Fairphone: Device controlled by google, but materials are sourced ethically. Repairability 1st class citizen. Privacy not looked at. Hardware limited by manufacturing.

    I'd say the purism guys had it tougher to cobble it together. Both projects are pretty awesome though.

    What is unfortunate with both these projects it that AV1 will (hopefuly) become relevant in about a year's time, and they don't have hw acceleration... So a hw refresh will definitely be in order.

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  • Girolamo_Cavazzoni
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    Let's not forget that Fairphone offers an officially supported Google-free Android that respects your freedom in many regards, although it still needs Qualcomm's blobs. And they are working on an Android image with freedreno for the midterm future.

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  • JacekJagosz
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    Just as a reminder, Fairphone 2 has only community port of Sailfish OS, it works great, but doesn't feature proprietary Android support.
    And there hasn't been any official announcement about official 3rd gen support, as either Fairphone would have to pay the license or you would have to pay Jolla directly. But at least community port is likely.

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  • starshipeleven
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    Originally posted by DMJC View Post
    Librem 5 isn't about the performance, it's about the control of the phone by the user. Actual Adblock on a phone is worth giving up some ram/storage. The mobile web experience on the Librem will completely cream the other phones. Hell Youtube adblock is a killer app.
    You can adblock on a rooted Android too, with Adaway https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.adaway
    It works exactly the same as most adblockers, it adds a blacklist to the system's "host file" (which is a dns lookup table) from the same freely available lists other browser-based adblockers use.

    This works at system level, so all browsers and apps will not show any banner or ad.

    I don't know about Youtube ads though, they are not easy to stop with just a static blacklist system. The addon I use in Desktop Firefox (Enhancer For Youtube) does run logic on the fly to detect them and remove them.

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  • DMJC
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    Librem 5 isn't about the performance, it's about the control of the phone by the user. Actual Adblock on a phone is worth giving up some ram/storage. The mobile web experience on the Librem will completely cream the other phones. Hell Youtube adblock is a killer app.

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  • Remdul
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    I would love to purchase a Fairphone, I don't even care about hardware specs...but Android. Android devices cannot fully function without violating European human rights/privacy laws, so the Fairphone is only 'fair' from a ecological point of view, not so much social. It is still a very badly needed initiative though. I hope Fairphone will support postmarketOS once the upcoming PinePhone has show it to be workable. With a bit of luck, the US Huawei ban will block Huawei from licensing Android, and lead to diversification the mobile OS landscape, for that badly needed competition, and break Google's illegally acquired monopoly.

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  • ZeroPointEnergy
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    Originally posted by AsuMagic View Post
    Yeah because the only difference between the fairphone and "off-the-shelf smartphones" is performance, right?
    Maybe I did not articulate myself clearly. My complain was exactly that Michael compares those phones only by performance, which isn't the point of any of those phones. They all have completely different goals.

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  • AsuMagic
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    Originally posted by ZeroPointEnergy View Post
    If the actual goal this different phone developers try to achieve with their projects is so completely beyond you that you have to judge them on the hardware performance alone, then why don't you just include some off-the-shelf smartphone that beats them all? That would make the point as well, wouldn't it?

    I can already tell you that those articles will not age well, like the ones of the Librem crowd funding campaign. Why the constant need to troll that project? Is this just a cheap trick to get more clicks. Pretty desperate.

    I for one will not buy the Fairphone as it doesn't even try to address the actual problems in terms of privacy issues with todays smartphones.
    Yeah because the only difference between the fairphone and "off-the-shelf smartphones" is performance, right?

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  • ZeroPointEnergy
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    If the actual goal this different phone developers try to achieve with their projects is so completely beyond you that you have to judge them on the hardware performance alone, then why don't you just include some off-the-shelf smartphone that beats them all? That would make the point as well, wouldn't it?

    I can already tell you that those articles will not age well, like the ones of the Librem crowd funding campaign. Why the constant need to troll that project? Is this just a cheap trick to get more clicks. Pretty desperate.

    I for one will not buy the Fairphone as it doesn't even try to address the actual problems in terms of privacy issues with todays smartphones.
    Last edited by ZeroPointEnergy; 08-30-2019, 07:43 AM.

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