Purism Talks Up The Librem 5 Smartphone Boot Speed, Price Increase Coming

[loganj]

well i can't stop comparing this to the person that tried for a few years to port gcc to git (he even got a threadripper from someone) and then the other person does the same with a few line of script.

[danmcgrew]

I'm buying the PinePhone, with a removeable, replaceable battery and a headphone jack--for less than $200.00.
And a Pinebook Pro Linux laptop (Ubuntu, KDE Neon, Q4OS and more); magnesium case. Same price.

https://www.pine64.org/

https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/

"...for less than $200.00...". Target price is $149.00. Software being developed / ported include Postmarket OS, UBPorts, KDE Plasma Mobile, Sailfish OS, Maemo Leste, Nix OS, Lune OS, Nemo Mobile...

"...Ubuntu, KDE Neon, Q4OS and more...". Including BSD and Android. And more; see the website.

[pejakm]

I order the dev kit and phone.
Dev kit still hasn't arrived

You should contact their support at support @ puri.sm

[brent]

PinePhone? I guess the "problem" with PinePhone is that they don't try to sell it as some kind of magical fairytale privacy device. Librem 5 is 90% crappy marketing and 10% substance. I kind of feel sorry for the backers already.

[starshipeleven]

And anyway do you turn off your phone while you have it with you? I never turn it off and don't know anyone who does.

Criminals about to commit a crime, that's who does that.

[Guest]

It's more likely that they just keep using ARM and acquire the cores they need through a third party that isn't blocked.

It's not like they give a fuck about IP there. Since they don't need to be able to export a crap anymore (no google apps = no exports of Android devices), why not giving them a finger.

Having no regard for the so-called "intellectual property" is one of these things I like in Chinese people. I wish others would see that the whole idea is just harmful and should be dropped.

[andyprough]

And anyway do you turn off your phone while you have it with you? I never turn it off and don't know anyone who does.

I turn off every day or two to swap out the battery. I bought a spare battery and a battery charger, so I just let the spare charge and swap them out instead of charging the phone directly. Boot time is about a half minute, so not too bad.

Criminals about to commit a crime, that's who does that.

Guilty as charged.

[Guest]

- 1.5 billion Chinese - sane economy where the government can get into the economy
- biggest manufacturing in the world

They will just come up with a new CPU platform.
If the US wanted to be effective at damaging the Chinese economy they should have started decades ago.

I don't see why they wouldn't want to pick up RISC-V.

[starshipeleven]

Having no regard for the so-called "intellectual property" is one of these things I like in Chinese people. I wish others would see that the whole idea is just harmful and should be dropped.

"no intellectual property" is exactly the same as the batshit insane level of IP enforcement you have in the USA.

In both cases the strong has free reign to abuse the weak.

[danmcgrew]

PinePhone? I guess the "problem" with PinePhone is that they don't try to sell it as some kind of magical fairytale privacy device. Librem 5 is 90% crappy marketing and 10% substance. I kind of feel sorry for the backers already.

You are absolutely correct: that is THE problem with the Pine organization. If you're tired of all the horse-shit being spewed by everyone from hardware manufacturers to operating system and software 'builders' of all stripes--all of whom just crank out worse and worse crap in the guise of "Newer AND Better"--just try this dose of brutal self-honesty on for size:

"...We do not wish to discourage anyone from getting the Pinebook [not referring to the Pinebook Pro], but it is not a daily driver, so if you are looking to replace your current work or school laptop it may be wise to look elsewhere."

[--From the description of Pine's $99.00 11.6" 1080p IPS Pinebook; still very much for sale. See website, under Devices > Laptops > PINEBOOK]