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  • #21
    Originally posted by Nille_kungen View Post
    Jolla Sailfish OS use systemd, it's everywhere.
    Ok... I give up...


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    • #22
      Originally posted by Danielsan View Post

      But why should they use Ubuntu touch when they have their own Debian based, libre, distro?
      Because that distro isn't mobile ready. There isn't any camera app, they had to create the call, contacts and message ones, and there are so many problems you need to solve when you are on a touchscreen, it looks like they are only seeing the responsive thing, but how do you handle copy and paste without a mouse and a keyboard for example?

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Danielsan View Post
        I hope for the better, probably I won't buy the first release but at least it will be the first mobile phone working with systemd...
        Not really: the PinePhone and Cosmo Communicator (the latter has OOTB multiboot support, including Linux distro support) will be the first.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post

          People can live without 4G or LTE or 5GHz Wifi( because even so, you are able to do everything that you can, and fast.. )...
          Now if a device don't have FM radio..how does you listen "free"( you already pay for it...so why not use it?? ) music and such without FM Radio?

          Morover, FM radio has by far a bigger coverage area than any other option around..
          It all depends if SoC used in particular smartphone has FM radio capability built-in or not. Haven't noticed any smartphones sporting dedicated FM receiver chip.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

            Not really: the PinePhone and Cosmo Communicator (the latter has OOTB multiboot support, including Linux distro support) will be the first.
            It means I have to wait a phone based on Gentoo or on Devuan...

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Flaburgan View Post
              Because that distro isn't mobile ready. There isn't any camera app, they had to create the call, contacts and message ones, and there are so many problems you need to solve when you are on a touchscreen, it looks like they are only seeing the responsive thing, but how do you handle copy and paste without a mouse and a keyboard for example?
              As you can see those reasons aren't enough to switch to another distro made by another company where they have few or nothing knowledge, but they are going to create an ecosystem of applications based on Gnome designed for a mobile phone. I consider they have to stick with PureOS, convergence and the apps that are still lacking. However they are minimally supporting the other projects, like Ubuntu OTA, so eventually you can install it instead of using PureOS.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Danielsan View Post

                As you can see those reasons aren't enough to switch to another distro made by another company where they have few or nothing knowledge, but they are going to create an ecosystem of applications based on Gnome designed for a mobile phone. I consider they have to stick with PureOS, convergence and the apps that are still lacking. However they are minimally supporting the other projects, like Ubuntu OTA, so eventually you can install it instead of using PureOS.
                It's not that I *want* to use Ubuntu Touch, it's just that building a full phone hardware + software takes years and they won't be able to deliver a decent user experience soon whatever they are saying. But the world deeply need a privacy respectful phone so IMO it's a shame they didn't realize that there are other solutions with a way better time to market.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by aht0 View Post
                  It all depends if SoC used in particular smartphone has FM radio capability built-in or not. Haven't noticed any smartphones sporting dedicated FM receiver chip.
                  Sony sells a bunch of them..
                  In my country, is very appreciated..
                  I only buy a phone that has FM Radio working on it..

                  That's why I have a Sony mobile phone..

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post

                    Sony sells a bunch of them..
                    In my country, is very appreciated..
                    I only buy a phone that has FM Radio working on it..

                    That's why I have a Sony mobile phone..
                    Hmm, okey. Thanks for that bit.

                    I've avoided Sony phones after the one I bought my wife as a quick replacement appeared to be much inferior to Samsungs.

                    Li-Po battery, instead of Li-Ion. Former is bigger possible fire hazard, lost charge faster and battery life-expectancy was shorter.
                    Camera frankly sucked. Colors were off indoors, details foggier.
                    Could not be rooted. ROM could not be changed.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by aht0 View Post
                      Hmm, okey. Thanks for that bit.

                      I've avoided Sony phones after the one I bought my wife as a quick replacement appeared to be much inferior to Samsungs.

                      Li-Po battery, instead of Li-Ion. Former is bigger possible fire hazard, lost charge faster and battery life-expectancy was shorter.
                      Camera frankly sucked. Colors were off indoors, details foggier.
                      Could not be rooted. ROM could not be changed.
                      Mine is okish..
                      Li-Ion around 3 days battery life, 21Mpix camera
                      awesome detail.
                      Its not AMOLED screen(here Blackberry with its BB10 was awesome),
                      Lots of extra sensors, like humidity/temperature sensors, apart all the rest..and of-course the most important Radio FM
                      Actually Roms can be changed, because Sailfish OS is one working with Sony Open Alliance Partnership
                      Last edited by tuxd3v; 19 April 2019, 03:42 AM.

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