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It's Becoming Possible To Run Linux Distributions On The HP/ASUS/Lenovo ARM Laptops
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Overpriced junk. Many reviews talk about "you'll get used to using a computer that runs slower". Here's a typical Amazon review of the ASUS model:
But here's the problem: Performance is dreadful. Even with applications compiled for the new processor I'm seeing it do no better than a cheap Intel netbook from 2015. This may not be so much of an issue with basic tasks like web browsing and word processing, but you could certainly do the same or better for far less money with a Chromebook or other low end Intel device.
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Originally posted by torsionbar28 View PostI beg to differ. I still have a bad taste in my mouth from NVidia's failed lead-free solder balls fiasco. I know four people who all got screwed by the failing NVidia laptop GPU's. NVidia stalled and denied for so long, most folks ended up scrapping their new $$$$ laptops before vendors slowly began rolling out recalls. And even when you sent in your dead NVidia laptop for a recall replacement, they simply replaced the board with another identical one that was certain to fail again. Ugh, it pisses me off just thinking about it. I'm never buying NVidia ever again.
Also, what's the problem with using lead? Unless it caused functionality issues, I don't see what's wrong with it. It's not like that's the only toxic material you'll find in a laptop, let alone have any real exposure to.
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Originally posted by andyprough View PostOverpriced junk. Many reviews talk about "you'll get used to using a computer that runs slower". Here's a typical Amazon review of the ASUS model:
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Originally posted by schmidtbag View PostI never heard about this. Do you have a source?
Also, what's the problem with using lead? Unless it caused functionality issues, I don't see what's wrong with it. It's not like that's the only toxic material you'll find in a laptop, let alone have any real exposure to.
https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...hips-defective
https://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/07...bump-material/
https://www.cnet.com/news/lawsuit-al...-chip-defects/
Between this fiasco, and their uncooperative stance on open-source driver development, I share Linus's 'F U NVDA' sentiment.
Last edited by torsionbar28; 11 February 2019, 02:50 PM.
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Originally posted by schmidtbag View PostNot sure what reviews you looked at, but from what I've seen, only x86 programs run "dreadfully slow", because they're emulated. Add on top of the fact that Windows is a bit too bloated for ARM use. Run native ARM binaries and these laptops have very reasonable performance for their price. The problem with Windows is the VAST majority of its binaries are x86, but Linux doesn't have this problem. You can easily get by running a typical Linux setup without a single x86 binary.
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Originally posted by andyprough View PostThese are the specs of a $240 Walmart laptop. Only difference I can see is the Snapdragon chip. Are those selling for $400 each? Did I miss something? I'm reading that the 835 costs closer to $100 apiece.
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostI'd also like to add here that Qualcomm SoCs with a Modem (like these laptops) the modem is run at higher privilege than the main CPU, and it has DMA, and it is horrendously complex and large thing that can do a lot of stuff like actually initializing the SoC or enforcing firmware signatures on boot.
Basically, the modem on Qualcomm hardware is roughly equivalent to the Intel ME.
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Originally posted by Britoid View PostUgh, I'd thought we would get past the point of device specific image files.Originally posted by Mattia_98 View PostAnother thing I'm woried about is that the Infrastructure around ARM isn't as flexible as x86. Like, as far as I know I can't just pop a CD into an ARM laptop and boot from it and install the system like that. :'( Maybe that's why ARM hasn't catched on..
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