Google's Pixel 3 Is Using The MSM DRM Driver, More Android Phones Moving To DRM/KMS Code

[darkbasic]

DRM as in Direct Rendering Manager, not the other useless and controversial thing also called "DRM".

I didn't mean trusted computing, but I was (and I still am) truly shocked by the fact that Google is using an open source video kernel driver.
Is the userspace opensource too?

[rene]

Fun fact: the first phone ever with KMS support was Openmoko Neo Freerunner with SMedia Glamo back in 2009.

yeah, but had no graphic acceleration, so the slowest UI mankind had ever seen :-/

[dos1]

yeah, but had no graphic acceleration, so the slowest UI mankind had ever seen :-/

It did have acceleration - Glamo is a 2D and 3D accelerating GPU. However, it was a chip optimized for 320x240. With 640x480 screen, the acceleration was actually deccelerating due to low bandwidth and overhead, and its 3D engine limits actually made it useless for GLES, so nobody ever implemented a driver for that :P (2D acceleration was working since release though)

[Michael]

I didn't mean trusted computing, but I was (and I still am) truly shocked by the fact that Google is using an open source video kernel driver.
Is the userspace opensource too?

That hasn't been entirely clear. But Google is contributing to Freedreno Gallium3D, so it could be possible... But because there isn't any Vulkan Freedreno driver yet, at least that would be closed-up lib.

[rene]

It did have acceleration - Glamo is a 2D and 3D accelerating GPU. However, it was a chip optimized for 320x240. With 640x480 screen, the acceleration was actually deccelerating due to low bandwidth and overhead, and its 3D engine limits actually made it useless for GLES, so nobody ever implemented a driver for that :P (2D acceleration was working since release though)

I only remember they did not wanted to release the SPEC, when I got my OpenMoko it was unaccelerated and pretty laggy. Unfortunately it was stolen during a break-in to a storage, of course ridiculous given that the resell value was zero for the stupid thieves. Would love to have it still around for messing with the 3G firmware, or other fun stuff that could come to mind ,-)

[Veerappan]

I didn't mean trusted computing, but I was (and I still am) truly shocked by the fact that Google is using an open source video kernel driver.
Is the userspace opensource too?

It's not the first time... I've got a 10" Pixel C tablet, and that one uses the Nouveau kernel driver with (I think) a closed-source nvidia user-space blob.