Purism Pushes Back The Librem 5 Linux Smartphone Release Date

[romlo]

i think Le Eco Le Max 2 is out dated phone!! You can still get best flagship phone in the price of this phone!!!
And if you can increase you budget then try out this Poco F1 from Xiaomi - Snapdragon 845 SoC, Adreno 630 GPU and much more -

[Shiba]

Sorry? Plasma Mobile is a LOT more usable than GNOME at this moment...

And the chance of getting eaten by a shark are way higher than being struck by a meteorite. They are both approaching 0, though.

[jo-erlend]

That's because you don't know the implications.

Lack of features at launch means lower sales, lower sales means less chances to actually make a profit, which means the project dies and none makes the hardware anymore.

We don't need an OpenMoko all over again, they need to be able to produce and ship hardware.

So it's better to not sell anything if you want to make money, then? The idea that the whole system must be perfect before it can be opened to the public, means there should be no GNU+Linux today at all, because there should be no contributors until the system was ready to be shipped to mainstream users.

[andrei_me]

People want large screen size, but in a compact form factor.

Totally agree with this, what matters is the device footprint, not the screen size, a phone wider than 7.2 cm (~2.8 in) becomes harder to handle with one hand, Essential Phone is a good example of big screen and small footprint

[andrei_me]

Are there still people who care about hardware performance in a phone?
I use Samsung Galaxy Xcover 2 (2013) with dual core CPU, because it's reasonably sized (4") and it doesn't get in my way (glass doesn't break in the first week). Hell, if it had 16GB storage, LTE support and wasn't stuck on Android 4.0 I doubt I'd even consider making the switch in the next 2-3 years.

Until April of this year, I was still using my LG G2, which was released on October of 2013, it is running Android 4.4, but in the last 6 months prior replacing it, the battery was way beyond its 1k recharges lifespan, it would die after 4~6h idling, just running background process, it was rebooting periodically, crashes were becoming common, it was a constant patience exercise.

Although I still think it's snapdragon 800 a viable soc for daily uses, the rest of the hardware was giving up already.

Now I have a Nokia 8, it is a 2017 high end phone and I hope I can use it for as much as I did to my old LG

[cybertraveler]

LoneVVolf - I have exactly the same thoughts about smart phones and the Librem as you. It's almost creepy as it looks like something I would have written.

[IreMinMon]

you are marginal. according to market research, large screen size is the single most sought after feature of smartphone. i assume you've never tried to read something non-reflowing on 4 inch screen

People want large screen size, but in a compact form factor. I'm personally quite surrounded with people who refuse to buy larger phones.
I almost never give my phone full attention. I usually call or text people when I'm working on something else at the same time, so two-handed usage is out of question for me. Reading pdfs? I print it all out. I've ruined enough of my eyesight with computer screens, I only really still use them for reading webpages.

[tildearrow]

As if Plasma were even marginally ready...

Sorry? Plasma Mobile is a LOT more usable than GNOME at this moment...

[Nille_kungen]

I'd like some source on this. Having backed the Jolla tablet myself, and having followed the situation as much as I could, I have never read that the manufacturer caused Jolla not to ship the tablets for randomly deciding to slap Android on them.
What I understood is that:
- there were several delays due to issues in the manufacturing process and a display quality issue
- Jolla ran out of money and couldn't pay the already manufactured tablets (only a small batch reached Jolla and went to the first backers)
- therefore the vendor had to still sell them in some way via alternative channels
- Android was the default OS for that hardware, in fact there were multiple similar tablets to that one (ex. Aigo X86), so they simply sold them with Android

Jolla was unlucky with the manufacturing delays, but also did not plan their finances well enough to account for the unexpected. So they risked too much with other people's money.
To say it's all fault of the manufacturer is false imo. Unless, sources can back that up.

It was an unfortunate series of events, Jolla was late with the payment but not very late and when they was about to pay the manufacturer wasn't able to finish the deal anymore.
Jolla was able to get hold of a few tablets that got shipped out.
The Jolla ordered tablets got shipped with android by Chinese retailer.
It's hard for a small company to pull it all of since they have no reserves of founding and can't place just orders for low volumes that's financially viable and many manufactures has min orders of 10000-20000 units.
What followed after was another unfortunate chain of events, Jolla has had some tough times but that's to be expected from a small company in that business trying to make it against the giant competition.
It's hard to make everything come together at the right time and Jolla learned their lesson, i think they wanted to do more than they were able to pull of.

[pal666]

However, readability is not only resolution and size but also contrast where the Kindle is superior (especially in daylight)

that's true, but i try to avoid places with blinding light even when i'm not reading, so on kindle i'd need additional lighting most of the time