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  • speculatrix
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    Originally posted by Hi-Angel View Post
    crappy touchpad, where 3-finger taps doesn't always work)[/i].
    first world problems ;-)

    I didn't even know there was a three finger tap.

    /me checks

    {smug mode}doesn't work for me. don't care {/smug}


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  • Hi-Angel
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    Originally posted by speculatrix View Post
    How do people do instant copy/paste without a middle mouse button? Must be very tedious to have to right mouse/copy, right mouse/paste. And how about opening link in new tab???
    As I said, I'm using either 3-finger tap to make a middle-mouse-button event, or simultaneous clicking left and right buttons (i.e. because I have a crappy touchpad, where 3-finger taps doesn't always work).

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  • Zan Lynx
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    Originally posted by speculatrix View Post
    How do people do instant copy/paste without a middle mouse button? Must be very tedious to have to right mouse/copy, right mouse/paste. And how about opening link in new tab???
    On a laptop when I don't have an external mouse I use the keyboard. Control-C and Control-V. And open in new tab is Control-Click on most browsers.

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  • speculatrix
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    Originally posted by Hi-Angel View Post
    How about 3-finger tap or simultaneous click of left and right buttons?

    FWIW I didn't even know there exist laptops with a middle button.
    Many of the Dell latitudes have them, I've actually got FIVE mouse buttons (two closer to me which are left and right) and two above the touchpad (left, middle and right), and as well as a trackpad it's got a pointer "nipple".

    How do people do instant copy/paste without a middle mouse button? Must be very tedious to have to right mouse/copy, right mouse/paste. And how about opening link in new tab???
    I guess if you're used to a Mac and a one button mouse, two buttons is a huge step forwards. Come to the elite group of three-button users!!! :-)

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  • Hi-Angel
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    Originally posted by speculatrix View Post
    Doesn't have a middle mouse button. Try the Latitude 7490 instead!
    How about 3-finger tap or simultaneous click of left and right buttons?

    FWIW I didn't even know there exist laptops with a middle button.

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  • speculatrix
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    Doesn't have a middle mouse button. Try the Latitude 7490 instead!

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  • Hi-Angel
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    Originally posted by RussianNeuroMancer View Post
    Usual firmware bug, which is why systemd default to s2idle, at least on Ubuntu. Not sure why it's different for Espionage724, as it's should be the same on Fedora.
    Oops, I probably linked a bit wrong post (though still somewhat relevant), it's rather this one https://mjg59.livejournal.com/85923.html The relevant quote-snips:

    Originally posted by mjg59
    As I mentioned, recent versions of Linux no longer claim to support the Linux interface. There's a couple of reasons for this. Firstly, some platforms break if they're told that they're running on Linux. It's usually an entirely untested codepath. Secondly, the whole point of the _OSI method is to provide the platform with information about the interface supported by an OS. "Linux" is too coarse grained - we make no guarantees that the interface between the OS and the platform will remain constant.



    So what kind of interface can we claim to provide? The sad truth of the matter is that most vendors will only test their code against Windows, and that as a result Windows provides the de-facto specification for OS/platform interaction. We could skip claiming to be Windows, but (in the best case) that means that the system will assume it's working with an OS that supports no advanced features. Rather than getting support for brightness changes being handled by the OS, we get stuck with SMM traps and unexpectedly missing time. If we want hardware to work to its full potential, we need to claim to be a recent version of Windows.



    Message to vendors: If we're not behaving in the same way as Windows does, let us know. We'll fix it.

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  • Hi-Angel
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    Originally posted by RussianNeuroMancer View Post
    Usual firmware bug, which is why systemd default to s2idle, at least on Ubuntu. Not sure why it's different for Espionage724, as it's should be the same on Fedora.
    Given on Windows it reports only S0, I think ACPI handling needs to be tweaked a bit, because per mjg59 Linux ACPI implementation purposely follows the Windows one.

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  • RussianNeuroMancer
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    Originally posted by Hi-Angel View Post
    Did you report a bug to kernel?
    Usual firmware bug, which is why systemd default to s2idle, at least on Ubuntu. Not sure why it's different for Espionage724, as it's should be the same on Fedora.

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  • Hi-Angel
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    Originally posted by Espionage724 View Post
    I have a XPS 13 9360 (i5-7200U) with Fedora Workstation 28:

    - Suspend as-is is broken (it goes to "sleep", and either locks-up or shuts down); as I understand, this laptop expects "Modern Standby", and only (officially?) supports states of S0 and nothing else; using "mem_sleep_default=s2idle" works fine and seemingly without issue (can shut the lid and open it to suspend/wake the system and all devices seem to return and work fine after suspend)

    - Along with the suspend note above; on Windows, the laptop only reports S0 support via powercfg; under Linux, it reports S0, S3, S4, and S5 support
    Did you report a bug to kernel?

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