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Civilization VI On Linux With RadeonSI Should Be Fine With Newer Mesa

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  • #11
    So for what is worth 60% alcohol would be there full working

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    • #12
      Originally posted by eydee View Post
      Issues are good, as issues can be fixed. Look at what Deus Ex did to RadeonSI. Just keep them coming, devs, OSS drivers may end up being good drivers.
      That is the main reason why I am happy about close-sourced games coming to Linux.

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      • #13
        So finally I'm happy Aspire clarified the situation. (Edit: Oh they didn't, thanks to Pierre-Loup Griffais instead.) The communication before was kind of not optimal.

        For the future I would recommend Aspire to test with the MESA stable and Padoka PPA writing the supported version under the specs, just like Feral does. The specs stay very long and many people frequently write that they are unsure to buy games because they have an AMD GPU. Although pretty much all of them work flawlessly now. So recommending a version that will be released very soon is likely better for everyone than dropping the whole support officially.
        Last edited by oooverclocker; 02-07-2017, 02:49 PM.

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        • #14
          shmerl
          If so, it would be pretty stupid. They should test with latest release of Mesa, and with latest Mesa master. And if something still doesn't work - report bugs to Mesa. That's a responsible thing to do.
          And when customers start complaining they will tell them to compile the latest mesa and kernel or add random ppas or simply wait 6 or 12 months and then upgrade the OS alltogether. Excellent idea.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by shmerl View Post

            If so, it would be pretty stupid. They should test with latest release of Mesa, and with latest Mesa master. And if something still doesn't work - report bugs to Mesa. That's a responsible thing to do. Testing on outdated Mesa, not reporting bugs and then saying "it's not supported" isn't responsible at all.
            Should? That's exactly what they shouldn't test because no distro comes with those. Sure, as hobbyists, to us looks like the first choice (that's why we add PPAs and whatnot). But for a company that's expected to offer support? Not gonna happen.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by zoomblab View Post
              shmerl

              And when customers start complaining they will tell them to compile the latest mesa and kernel or add random ppas or simply wait 6 or 12 months and then upgrade the OS alltogether. Excellent idea.
              They can tell them they don't support old mesa. Much better than telling they don't support AMD. Those who play games shouldn't use ancient drivers.

              Originally posted by bug77 View Post

              Should? That's exactly what they shouldn't test because no distro comes with those. Sure, as hobbyists, to us looks like the first choice (that's why we add PPAs and whatnot). But for a company that's expected to offer support? Not gonna happen.
              Normal distros use latest Mesa release. Testing for git is needed to determine whether they need to file a bug or it was already fixed. I thought that was obvious.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by zoomblab View Post
                And when customers start complaining they will tell them to compile the latest mesa and kernel or add random ppas or simply wait 6 or 12 months and then upgrade the OS alltogether. Excellent idea.
                I think pretty much everyone here uses at least the stable PPA instead of the standard libraries of Ubuntu or the distribution he uses. Perhaps the rest have to wait up to half a year when the MESA version is noted directly under the recommendations and if they can't read it's just their own fault. I am quite sure that they are glad enough to be able to play the game at all that they wouldn't even complain.

                Just look at the people here. Many of us had issues with games in the past and we were patient enough for them to get solved and some tried constructively to commit the information that were necessary to fix things instead of complaining. That's because when you're a Linux user you are aware of the fact that RadeonSI hasn't been OpenGL 4.5 compliant in the last year.
                And we can also behave the same for the time that it takes to improve the performance now that the features are implemented.
                Last edited by oooverclocker; 02-07-2017, 04:32 PM.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by shmerl View Post
                  They should test with latest release of Mesa, and with latest Mesa master. And if something still doesn't work - report bugs to Mesa. That's a responsible thing to do. Testing on outdated Mesa, not reporting bugs and then saying "it's not supported" isn't responsible at all.
                  you can do all of this without their help

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Michael View Post
                    No, in the context of Linux gaming:

                    NVIDIA == NVIDIA proprietary driver
                    windows driver goes to context of windows gaming

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by shmerl View Post
                      Normal distros use latest Mesa release.
                      latest mesa release at the point of distro release, which is what for ubuntu lts?

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